Let's talk brake pads
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11-25-2008 | 07:52 AM
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Here is a picture of the differences.
Boxster < GT3 < Cup
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11-25-2008 | 09:46 AM
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I can't remember how much I spent, but I can remember that the CUP ducts were stupid expensive compaired to the Stock or GT3 Ducts. If I recall correctly someone told me the new 997 GT3 and 997 GT3 Cup ducts also fit and that the 997 GT3 Cup ducts were waaaay less than the 996 Cup ducts.
Call up Suncoast or The Racers Group (or ask the question on the Rennlist Racers forum), they should know.
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11-25-2008 | 10:55 AM
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11-25-2008 | 07:07 PM
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Nope, keeping the rotors. I'm just going to upgrade the pads, bleed the fluid, and maybe add some of those 997GT3 ducts. For $30, why not? 
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11-26-2008 | 09:50 AM
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I asked my shop about SS lines. They didn't seem to be fans, stating that even cup cars come with rubber lines and that I wouldn't feel the difference. He said the only big advantage is that there's much less of a chance of debris damaging the SS lines, thus keeping you in the race. I've had them on bikes before and I couldn't tell the difference.
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11-29-2008 | 07:18 AM
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I'm going to buy the 997 GT3 ducts. Suncoast is running that sale so it should be like $27 for the pair. Luckily I can skip the shipping since my office is about ten minutes from them.
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12-10-2008 | 03:18 AM
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I like Carbotech pads. They're very good to your rotors, work in a very wide temperature range, but can handle heat and heavy track use w/o fade. The downside is noise on the race pads, and a lot of dust.
For your described use, probably AX6's, or maybe Bobcat's would be the right compounds to consider: http://ctbrakes.com/faqs#compounds1
For your described use, probably AX6's, or maybe Bobcat's would be the right compounds to consider: http://ctbrakes.com/faqs#compounds1
I need to replace my stock pads in the 996.
I found it amazing that the pads were only half worn with 28K miles on my car, and I managed to destroy the other half (literally) in about two months with 2 auto-x events and one track day. I actually had to cut my track day short (only by about 2 laps) due to complete pad wear. I got the dash warning as well as the old "pedal to the floor squishy brake" warning
Anyway, I need pads and the car is grounded for the time being.
What should I get? I plan on doing at least 3 DE events in the upcoming year and maybe a little auto-x'ing.
Should I put factory pads in there or go for some sort of upgrade?
I found it amazing that the pads were only half worn with 28K miles on my car, and I managed to destroy the other half (literally) in about two months with 2 auto-x events and one track day. I actually had to cut my track day short (only by about 2 laps) due to complete pad wear. I got the dash warning as well as the old "pedal to the floor squishy brake" warning
Anyway, I need pads and the car is grounded for the time being.
What should I get? I plan on doing at least 3 DE events in the upcoming year and maybe a little auto-x'ing.
Should I put factory pads in there or go for some sort of upgrade?
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12-11-2008 | 11:59 PM
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Hawk pads and Brembo fluid
My 2 cents (although probably worth half of that). I'm running an 03 996 coupe and boiled the stock fluid (while melting the brake sensors) on my first track day. This is my 4th 911 I have tracked and never had this problem before. I went to Hawk HP + http://www.raceshopper.com/hawk_brake_compounds.shtml , $230 for a set of front and rear, Brembo 600 fluid http://www.raceshopper.com/brembo_lc...ke_fluid.shtml , and gt3 brake ducts from Suncoast.
Compare the stats on the Brembo fluid to the "gold standard" Castrol :
BremboŽ LCF 600+ (DOT 4) brake fluid has an exceptionally high
dry boiling point of 601F and a wet boiling point of 399F.
Brembo LCF 600+ also offers up to a 10% reduction in compressibility at 350F compared to other competitors' fluids.
$19.95 Per 1/2 Liter bottle
Castrol:
Castrol SRF
This is the ultimate racing brake fluid!
(Dry 590/Wet 518)
$74.95 (1 Liter)
So the Castrol costs twice as much for almost the same dry temp (we're not worried about wet....you do flush that fluid before the track day, right?).
The Hawks dust up quite a bit, squeal a little, but have lasted through 5 track days at Sebring and still have pad left. There's no issue with them when cold on the street and they work great (here's a video link. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJhYub_jCZE ) Start at 3:30 and see how I catch the Bimmer in the brake zone.
I don't own any stock in Raceshopper, Hawk or Brembo but I can recommend them.
Compare the stats on the Brembo fluid to the "gold standard" Castrol :
BremboŽ LCF 600+ (DOT 4) brake fluid has an exceptionally high
dry boiling point of 601F and a wet boiling point of 399F.
Brembo LCF 600+ also offers up to a 10% reduction in compressibility at 350F compared to other competitors' fluids.
$19.95 Per 1/2 Liter bottle
Castrol:
Castrol SRF
This is the ultimate racing brake fluid!
(Dry 590/Wet 518)
$74.95 (1 Liter)
So the Castrol costs twice as much for almost the same dry temp (we're not worried about wet....you do flush that fluid before the track day, right?).
The Hawks dust up quite a bit, squeal a little, but have lasted through 5 track days at Sebring and still have pad left. There's no issue with them when cold on the street and they work great (here's a video link. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJhYub_jCZE ) Start at 3:30 and see how I catch the Bimmer in the brake zone.
I don't own any stock in Raceshopper, Hawk or Brembo but I can recommend them.