Porsche 996 TT Brakes on a C2 - Not a debate...
#46
If you're getting the front 996T wheel carriers and MC then you'll be looking at about $1650-$1700 new. Used, of course, is a different story.
I'd at least check with Mark over at Brembo to get this offhand advice on doing the upgrade. In the 996T Brake thread over in that forum he had really great advice regarding the effects of the ABS system and MC's when swapping out calipers from another car.
I'd at least check with Mark over at Brembo to get this offhand advice on doing the upgrade. In the 996T Brake thread over in that forum he had really great advice regarding the effects of the ABS system and MC's when swapping out calipers from another car.
#48
Cheers
A
#49
Ran it past my expert and he said as long as the car is switched off there are no issues. I'll disconnect the neg terminal to be safe.
By the way, I'm talking with Steve at Rennsport Systems... really knows his stuff! http://rennsportsystems.com
Cheers
Aaron
By the way, I'm talking with Steve at Rennsport Systems... really knows his stuff! http://rennsportsystems.com
Cheers
Aaron
#50
Turbo vs GT3 Brakes
Ok... can someone explain the difference between the turbo and the GT3 brakes? Why would it be better to have the GT3 over the turbo. Thanks.
#52
AND a big issue us 996 guys have when we lower our cars is that we create a good bit of bump steer in the process by changing the geometry on the toe-arm angle.
The GT3 brakes will bolt direct up to the stock GT3 carriers, cup car carriers or GT3 RS wheel carriers. In order those all have revised and better geometry for the toe-arms to eliminate bump steer when the cars are lowered. If you guys saw how drastic the toe change gets when the cars are lowered you'd be shocked. I'm below GT3 height but above cup car height and even with bump steer adjustable toe-links on my car I still have alot of bump steer due to the stock wheel carriers.
However, the OP already stated he got a killer deal on the turbo brakes which are going to be an improvement over the stock system and for not much money when he's all done with everything.
Andy
The GT3 brakes will bolt direct up to the stock GT3 carriers, cup car carriers or GT3 RS wheel carriers. In order those all have revised and better geometry for the toe-arms to eliminate bump steer when the cars are lowered. If you guys saw how drastic the toe change gets when the cars are lowered you'd be shocked. I'm below GT3 height but above cup car height and even with bump steer adjustable toe-links on my car I still have alot of bump steer due to the stock wheel carriers.
However, the OP already stated he got a killer deal on the turbo brakes which are going to be an improvement over the stock system and for not much money when he's all done with everything.
Andy
#53
Ya the GT3 is a sweet setup, but the budget does start to go through the roof quite quickly.
I'm looking to stick with a GT3 height specification so we'll see how negative the bump steer issue is with the Turbo wheel carriers.
A
I'm looking to stick with a GT3 height specification so we'll see how negative the bump steer issue is with the Turbo wheel carriers.
A
#54
I picked up some 997GT3 ducts the other day. However my mechanic said that they're a waste of money so I'll probably return them. He said they're about the same size as the 996C2 ducts so they really don't add any benefit. He also said that the 7GT3 has duct work in the bumper for the brakes that works in conjunction with the other ducts which is why the similarly sized ducts work on the 7GT3.
He suggested 996 cup car brake ducts. I'm still trying to get a price on those. The GT3RS ducts are crazy expensive. I've held them in my hand. They are quite a bit bigger, but damn it's plastic. The RS ducts are literally like 10x what the 7GT3 ducts cost.
#55
I have the 997 GT3 ducts on my car. Your mechanis is correct in that they aren't MUCH better than the stock 996 ducts...and about the same as the 996 GT3 ducts, but in my comparisons they did offer some additional volume under the control arm to capture air and get it up to the rotor. For the $16 I paid for the pair I suppose they're considered cheap insurance if nothing else as my car's pretty low and I catch the ducts on speed bumps from time to time if I"m not careful.
I'm going to put the cup car ducts on my car next season as they're a drastic improvement over any of the other ducts. They're $250ish and usually they're cheaper through race teams like TRG than through any dealers. However there's no way I'll be able to run them on the street so I'll have to install and un-install them for each track day.
Andy
I'm going to put the cup car ducts on my car next season as they're a drastic improvement over any of the other ducts. They're $250ish and usually they're cheaper through race teams like TRG than through any dealers. However there's no way I'll be able to run them on the street so I'll have to install and un-install them for each track day.
Andy
Which ducts did you go with?
I picked up some 997GT3 ducts the other day. However my mechanic said that they're a waste of money so I'll probably return them. He said they're about the same size as the 996C2 ducts so they really don't add any benefit. He also said that the 7GT3 has duct work in the bumper for the brakes that works in conjunction with the other ducts which is why the similarly sized ducts work on the 7GT3.
He suggested 996 cup car brake ducts. I'm still trying to get a price on those. The GT3RS ducts are crazy expensive. I've held them in my hand. They are quite a bit bigger, but damn it's plastic. The RS ducts are literally like 10x what the 7GT3 ducts cost.
I picked up some 997GT3 ducts the other day. However my mechanic said that they're a waste of money so I'll probably return them. He said they're about the same size as the 996C2 ducts so they really don't add any benefit. He also said that the 7GT3 has duct work in the bumper for the brakes that works in conjunction with the other ducts which is why the similarly sized ducts work on the 7GT3.
He suggested 996 cup car brake ducts. I'm still trying to get a price on those. The GT3RS ducts are crazy expensive. I've held them in my hand. They are quite a bit bigger, but damn it's plastic. The RS ducts are literally like 10x what the 7GT3 ducts cost.
#56
Which ducts did you go with?
I picked up some 997GT3 ducts the other day. However my mechanic said that they're a waste of money so I'll probably return them. He said they're about the same size as the 996C2 ducts so they really don't add any benefit. He also said that the 7GT3 has duct work in the bumper for the brakes that works in conjunction with the other ducts which is why the similarly sized ducts work on the 7GT3.
He suggested 996 cup car brake ducts. I'm still trying to get a price on those. The GT3RS ducts are crazy expensive. I've held them in my hand. They are quite a bit bigger, but damn it's plastic. The RS ducts are literally like 10x what the 7GT3 ducts cost.
I picked up some 997GT3 ducts the other day. However my mechanic said that they're a waste of money so I'll probably return them. He said they're about the same size as the 996C2 ducts so they really don't add any benefit. He also said that the 7GT3 has duct work in the bumper for the brakes that works in conjunction with the other ducts which is why the similarly sized ducts work on the 7GT3.
He suggested 996 cup car brake ducts. I'm still trying to get a price on those. The GT3RS ducts are crazy expensive. I've held them in my hand. They are quite a bit bigger, but damn it's plastic. The RS ducts are literally like 10x what the 7GT3 ducts cost.
yeah theyre quite a bit more money... but Ive never had any brake fade with them on, with stock ducts, Ive had them fade on me...
#57
I have the 997 GT3 ducts on my car. Your mechanis is correct in that they aren't MUCH better than the stock 996 ducts...and about the same as the 996 GT3 ducts, but in my comparisons they did offer some additional volume under the control arm to capture air and get it up to the rotor. For the $16 I paid for the pair I suppose they're considered cheap insurance if nothing else as my car's pretty low and I catch the ducts on speed bumps from time to time if I"m not careful.
I'm going to put the cup car ducts on my car next season as they're a drastic improvement over any of the other ducts. They're $250ish and usually they're cheaper through race teams like TRG than through any dealers. However there's no way I'll be able to run them on the street so I'll have to install and un-install them for each track day.
Andy
I'm going to put the cup car ducts on my car next season as they're a drastic improvement over any of the other ducts. They're $250ish and usually they're cheaper through race teams like TRG than through any dealers. However there's no way I'll be able to run them on the street so I'll have to install and un-install them for each track day.
Andy
Are you scraping the 7GT3 ducts on the street?
#58
My car is lowered on Bilstein's and has the turbo front end. I'm constant dragging that front lip. Should I assume that these ducts would probably be worse?
#59
I'm going to put the cup car ducts on my car next season as they're a drastic improvement over any of the other ducts. They're $250ish and usually they're cheaper through race teams like TRG than through any dealers. However there's no way I'll be able to run them on the street so I'll have to install and un-install them for each track day.
Andy
Andy
#60
Thanks for the pics. Do you drive your car on the street? And if so, how bad are they? Do they scrape worse than the front end?
My car is lowered on Bilstein's and has the turbo front end. I'm constant dragging that front lip. Should I assume that these ducts would probably be worse?
My car is lowered on Bilstein's and has the turbo front end. I'm constant dragging that front lip. Should I assume that these ducts would probably be worse?