Which Radar dector do you guys use?
#92
09-01-2009, 12:08 AM
Several months ago I was getting my oil changed at my local Porsche dealer. I ventured into the showroom where I found a display of a Valentine 1 Radar Detector which was intergrated in a rearview mirror. Does anyone have this system and how do you like it? What was the cost? I'm thinking about getting one soon because I'd rather not get a radar detector that you have to mount onto your windshield.
#93
09-01-2009, 08:24 AM
Several months ago I was getting my oil changed at my local Porsche dealer. I ventured into the showroom where I found a display of a Valentine 1 Radar Detector which was intergrated in a rearview mirror. Does anyone have this system and how do you like it? What was the cost? I'm thinking about getting one soon because I'd rather not get a radar detector that you have to mount onto your windshield.
#94
09-01-2009, 09:57 PM
I am totally aware of that, but my question is: Is this V1 Unit (rear view mirror display and radar detecting unit) any good? Only reason I ask is because I went to a local tint-radar-stereo installer and he was totally against me buying a V1, he swears by K40, but I think only because thats what he sells/stocks.
#96
09-02-2009, 06:57 AM
I am totally aware of that, but my question is: Is this V1 Unit (rear view mirror display and radar detecting unit) any good? Only reason I ask is because I went to a local tint-radar-stereo installer and he was totally against me buying a V1, he swears by K40, but I think only because thats what he sells/stocks.
The mirror display is cool, but it's not very stealthy. I guess it just depends on what you want. I've heard at night the mirror display is pretty visible to traffic behind you. Go to radardetector.net to see what the true hobbyists say.
#97
09-02-2009, 08:50 AM
The V1 is very very sensitive. Once you get use to the arrow you will wonder why you never had them before. For what I have read the K-40 stuff in old technology and just has not kept up with the times.
Some people hate the V1 because it is too sensitive. I dont care what dectector you use. If you get hit with instant on or lidar just pull over and take the ticket. With the LI or Blinder lidar jammers you should get time to slow down if they are installed correctly.
Some people hate the V1 because it is too sensitive. I dont care what dectector you use. If you get hit with instant on or lidar just pull over and take the ticket. With the LI or Blinder lidar jammers you should get time to slow down if they are installed correctly.
#98
09-02-2009, 09:18 AM
I've used a V1 in several cars for over 16 years (I sent it back once to have it upgraded) and I swear by it - it's saved me thousands in tickets. My C4S also has dual K40 detectors installed by the p.o., but I never turn them on (I hate the fact that you can't mute them). I've done side-by-side comparisons, and the V1 is a bit more sensitive.
#99
09-02-2009, 11:39 PM
Thanks for everyones input. I'm definitely going to go with the V1 but I am unsure on which install to go with. I really dont want to stick the radar detector to the windshield and I would rather go with an installed unit... either integrated into the rearview mirror or having the head unit installed somewhere.
#100
09-03-2009, 06:01 AM
If you want a concealed unit you can't go with a V1. You would need either a Passport 9500ci (I think that's the model) or the Bel STi R. Of the two the Bel will perform better.
Te V1 is smaller than it looks in pictures. You can hardwire it for mounting above your rearview mirror or near your sun visor and use the remote display mounted anywhere you wish, or use the mirror display you like.
Te V1 is smaller than it looks in pictures. You can hardwire it for mounting above your rearview mirror or near your sun visor and use the remote display mounted anywhere you wish, or use the mirror display you like.
#102
09-05-2009, 10:50 PM
very nice post
thank you
thank you
Rthompson -
You ask the right questions about a good RD, v1 v Escort - however, before you purchase, you might want to consider what has noticably been missed by all in the forum.
you are down to 2 of 3 of the best in radar detectors (you may want to consider Bel as well as Escort and V1). Again, to start, you don’t want to ignore the answers from your friends here in the forum but agian, if you don't mind, here are some very important points to consider:
Consider your purchase is not just for a one time product buy, but that you are making an investment in your driving future and driving peace of mind (and don’t’ forget – you want to save money by not being successfully targeted and ticketed by any law enforcement means available either today or on into the future). Some things to consider when you invest in a RGD (really good detector):
1. Like other technologies, w/ RDs you have to spend enough to get capable technology – therefore, a visit to the local WM for a $99 detector is a waste of your time and money as that level of cost v. performance does not cover all the guns, all the bands and w/ enough range to do you any good. – don't waste your money on a cheap detector.
2. also consider that your investment should give you future returns by keeping you safe against all the guns, all the time. everyone in this forum, including you, are correct in suggesting Escort and Valentine (and let’s not forget to add Bel). All 3 brands mentioned (v1, Escort and Bel STi) see all the guns w/ enough range to help you react in time to take preventative measures and not get stopped. Though primary to performance, this is not the only criteria – in fact, we’re just getting started.
3. you also need to consider w/ seriousness, the possibility of the rare but possible, "dead in their sites laser gun" attack – as you and the others here in the 6speed forum know, laser can be deadly due to the technology being a) nearly instantaneous and b) single target capable which means when he sights and fires the laser, if you are the target, you are the only one caught and it is deadly accurate. Considering this very important criteria, of the 3 top brands, only Escort and Bel have add-on systems that completely disarm the laser gun and prevent it from targeting and tracking you for purposes of being stopped. Both the Escort and the Bel systems are thorough in their operation and relatively easy to add on once you have purchased their windshield mount detectors. ie, you don't have to buy all the pieces immediately but instead you can always add the 'shifters'/'blockers' when you're ready. all of their models work w/ their affordable laser 'shifting'/'blocking' systems. The V1 simply does not have this option.
4. and finally, and fast becoming the most important criteria (as we are speaking of investments), you need to make yourself aware of the single greatest increasing threat of being stopped today - the rapid placement of red light and speed cameras being deployed all across North America. Thousands already active w/ more being added/installed every single day. Only Escort (the Passport 9500ix) and Bel (Bel Pro GX65) have a detector that is fully prepared to asses and alert you to these threats accurately and only Escort and Bel offer you web ready detectors for instant, easy downloads that allow you to keep your increasing threat database updated on all of these imposing new threat locations. Again, no technology of this type is available from the V1.
5. bonus (and for purposes of driving comfort and confidence) reconsider your past drives in the urban area w/ a RD … if you have driven with past RDs, as all of your friends on the blog have, you will get dozens of alerts from those detectors ... and none of them will be real threats. that's because many of the security systems installed in many businesses around you and nearly all of the automatic door openers at all of the local stores, businesses and corner gas stops, operate in the same bands as do law enforcement guns. all other brand detectors have no technology to know the difference and so they work as simple receivers (dumb receivers) and alert you to all of these non-threats! Again, only Escort and Bel have patented GPS technology to analyze, lockout and eliminate these false alert threats and let you drive w/ a detector that works as a detector and not as a simple, false alert noise generator. for me, this one is huge - if you ever have the chance to drive w/ the escort 9500ix, you'll quickly appreciate just how QUIET it is driving through urban areas ... simply outstanding engineering. no way v1 even comes close - its incessant chirping will drive you crazy - the arrows cannot outweigh this liability.
With help from your friends here in the forum and independent info, as in the sites suggested, you have the opportunity to choose, w/ knowledge, the best choice in complete protection w/ all the options and the technology to meet current and new, increasing threats, stop from being successfully laser targeted, eliminate all the false alert threats and all of this in one brand - for me, it comes down to Bel or Escort.
You ask the right questions about a good RD, v1 v Escort - however, before you purchase, you might want to consider what has noticably been missed by all in the forum.
you are down to 2 of 3 of the best in radar detectors (you may want to consider Bel as well as Escort and V1). Again, to start, you don’t want to ignore the answers from your friends here in the forum but agian, if you don't mind, here are some very important points to consider:
Consider your purchase is not just for a one time product buy, but that you are making an investment in your driving future and driving peace of mind (and don’t’ forget – you want to save money by not being successfully targeted and ticketed by any law enforcement means available either today or on into the future). Some things to consider when you invest in a RGD (really good detector):
1. Like other technologies, w/ RDs you have to spend enough to get capable technology – therefore, a visit to the local WM for a $99 detector is a waste of your time and money as that level of cost v. performance does not cover all the guns, all the bands and w/ enough range to do you any good. – don't waste your money on a cheap detector.
2. also consider that your investment should give you future returns by keeping you safe against all the guns, all the time. everyone in this forum, including you, are correct in suggesting Escort and Valentine (and let’s not forget to add Bel). All 3 brands mentioned (v1, Escort and Bel STi) see all the guns w/ enough range to help you react in time to take preventative measures and not get stopped. Though primary to performance, this is not the only criteria – in fact, we’re just getting started.
3. you also need to consider w/ seriousness, the possibility of the rare but possible, "dead in their sites laser gun" attack – as you and the others here in the 6speed forum know, laser can be deadly due to the technology being a) nearly instantaneous and b) single target capable which means when he sights and fires the laser, if you are the target, you are the only one caught and it is deadly accurate. Considering this very important criteria, of the 3 top brands, only Escort and Bel have add-on systems that completely disarm the laser gun and prevent it from targeting and tracking you for purposes of being stopped. Both the Escort and the Bel systems are thorough in their operation and relatively easy to add on once you have purchased their windshield mount detectors. ie, you don't have to buy all the pieces immediately but instead you can always add the 'shifters'/'blockers' when you're ready. all of their models work w/ their affordable laser 'shifting'/'blocking' systems. The V1 simply does not have this option.
4. and finally, and fast becoming the most important criteria (as we are speaking of investments), you need to make yourself aware of the single greatest increasing threat of being stopped today - the rapid placement of red light and speed cameras being deployed all across North America. Thousands already active w/ more being added/installed every single day. Only Escort (the Passport 9500ix) and Bel (Bel Pro GX65) have a detector that is fully prepared to asses and alert you to these threats accurately and only Escort and Bel offer you web ready detectors for instant, easy downloads that allow you to keep your increasing threat database updated on all of these imposing new threat locations. Again, no technology of this type is available from the V1.
5. bonus (and for purposes of driving comfort and confidence) reconsider your past drives in the urban area w/ a RD … if you have driven with past RDs, as all of your friends on the blog have, you will get dozens of alerts from those detectors ... and none of them will be real threats. that's because many of the security systems installed in many businesses around you and nearly all of the automatic door openers at all of the local stores, businesses and corner gas stops, operate in the same bands as do law enforcement guns. all other brand detectors have no technology to know the difference and so they work as simple receivers (dumb receivers) and alert you to all of these non-threats! Again, only Escort and Bel have patented GPS technology to analyze, lockout and eliminate these false alert threats and let you drive w/ a detector that works as a detector and not as a simple, false alert noise generator. for me, this one is huge - if you ever have the chance to drive w/ the escort 9500ix, you'll quickly appreciate just how QUIET it is driving through urban areas ... simply outstanding engineering. no way v1 even comes close - its incessant chirping will drive you crazy - the arrows cannot outweigh this liability.
With help from your friends here in the forum and independent info, as in the sites suggested, you have the opportunity to choose, w/ knowledge, the best choice in complete protection w/ all the options and the technology to meet current and new, increasing threats, stop from being successfully laser targeted, eliminate all the false alert threats and all of this in one brand - for me, it comes down to Bel or Escort.
#103
09-05-2009, 11:56 PM
I have tried many radar detectors over the years in all price ranges, and I will say from experience that lidar and instant on KA radar are no joke. All the sensitivity in the world will not save you from these attacks. Every ticket I have gotten in the past 6 years has been due to these attacks. Even if you use a cheap radar detector, they will give you some protection. Trust me, the troopers that are using instant on tactics are your mortal enemy.
To give myself some real world protection, I never speed past on ramps or over hills. If there is a straightaway, I might jump into triple digits for a second, but as soon as natural barriers come in sight, I back off. I try to always remember that as a chronic speeder, I am considered to be a criminal, and the trooper's job is to catch me. I have to use every tool at my disposal, whether electronic, mechanical, or mental to keep my license.
In my opinion, the first thing that should be done is to realize that if you are looking to buy a radar detector, you are likely going to speed. That being the case, be honest with yourself and know that you are challenging the cops. Once you come to that realization, it will become abundantly clear to you how far you need to go to protect yourself.
My favorite brands, BTW, are Bel and Escort.
To give myself some real world protection, I never speed past on ramps or over hills. If there is a straightaway, I might jump into triple digits for a second, but as soon as natural barriers come in sight, I back off. I try to always remember that as a chronic speeder, I am considered to be a criminal, and the trooper's job is to catch me. I have to use every tool at my disposal, whether electronic, mechanical, or mental to keep my license.
In my opinion, the first thing that should be done is to realize that if you are looking to buy a radar detector, you are likely going to speed. That being the case, be honest with yourself and know that you are challenging the cops. Once you come to that realization, it will become abundantly clear to you how far you need to go to protect yourself.
My favorite brands, BTW, are Bel and Escort.
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