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Those seats are gorgeous. Nice upgrade to the interior of your Porsche. I agree with the black and red refinish. Here is a company that is highly recommended over on Ferrarichat. I plan on using it on the interior of the 59 Maserati I'm restoring. http://www.leatherique.net/
 
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I believe that is the company the 6speeder used also. They have a great rep for the product.
 
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Great information - thanks for posting!
 
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OMG! i want these just without the ferrari symbol
 
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I perfer to think of it as the Stuttgart "Stud Farm" symbol!
 
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My dad had Challenger TA 340 6 pack wants to see the seats via theis post. Car guys are car guys.
 

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Originally Posted by Steve Germany
David,

Little known factoid. Ferrari seats are made by Recaro. Recaro is actually a German company (lots of folks think of them as an Italian company). They are made just outside of Stuttgart (many parts from Hungary) - does this make it OK? LOL
yea ok

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Old 04-14-2009 | 03:51 PM
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I'm still having a problem getting the pax seat to operate electrically. If anyone has any thoughts on the back angle control system it would be greatly appreciated!
 
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Originally Posted by Steve Germany
David,

Little known factoid. Ferrari seats are made by Recaro. Recaro is actually a German company (lots of folks think of them as an Italian company). They are made just outside of Stuttgart (many parts from Hungary) - does this make it OK? LOL

Steve,

Actually Ferrari seats are made by LEAR, they are the largest OE producer of seats. The same internal frame is used on the Maserati Coupe/Gransport, 996 Sport/Turbo, Ferrari 360/430 standard/Daytona. The 550/575/599/612 seats are also made by LEAR, but use a different frame. The Sport seats with the carbon shell also have a different frame.

Right now, in the exotic world, Recaro is making the Lamborghini Gallardo model seats, and the Recaro GT3 raceshell (adapted directly from their racing shell), however they are not making the standard, sport, GT3RS or GT2 seats for Porsche. I have not been able to get my hands on a Murci seat to confirm it's Recaro, but I do not think it is.

OMP made the Ferrari Challenge shells, Momo the Diablo GTR and Sparco the Ferrari CS and Maserati GSVictory edition. Still trying to get my hands on a pair of 430 Scud seats, but betting on Sparco given the seats profile.

How am I so sure about all of this? RaceChairs takes the seats out of all of these cars and converts them into office chairs. I've had all of them apart, and usually 1 model of each here in storage at my office. We are also an authorized Recaro, OMP and Pininfarina dealer.

Of interesting note for those considering a similar project...the 996 and 997 mounting bolt patterns are supposed to be the same. We remove the motors and sliders in our chair conversions and then offer them to dismantlers/recycelers or on ebay. I have had half a dozen Porsche customers buy the 997 brackets to use in mounting a new seat in their 996. I have not done it myself, but several people have confirmed it bolted right in for them.

Since the 996 seat uses the same basic framework as the Ferrari seats, it would be possible to buy the lower rails and bracket from a 996 and mount directly to the frame of a Ferrari 360/430 model (or any of the others above) and then drop straight into your 996/997.

If anyone is ever pulling a good set of seats our of your car to do this, please drop me a pm if you're interested in selling them, we're always looking for new inventory.

thanks

Ron.
 
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Originally Posted by mfletch
Those seats are gorgeous. Nice upgrade to the interior of your Porsche. I agree with the black and red refinish. Here is a company that is highly recommended over on Ferrarichat. I plan on using it on the interior of the 59 Maserati I'm restoring. http://www.leatherique.net/

We use Leatherique exclusively on our Ferrari seats for cleaning and restoring. Can't say enough good things about the product or how it works. Use a paint brush to get the rejuvenator on, then use your bare hands to rub in. It's an all natural oil and will actually leave your hands moisterized when you're done. If doing it in your car, park it in the sun and leave for 24hours. Then use the cleaner and a rag to wipe the glaze off the seats. use a lintfree cotton towel to give a final buff to the leather. do once a year, don't use any other products. use the cleaner if things get dirty.

if you have light colored seats, don't be alarmed if the leather turns a little darker, that's just the oil soaking in, it'll turn back to the original color in a day or two. Dark colored leather will develope a whitish film from the oil as it pushed the dirt out of the leather, this is normal.

keep in mind Ferrari seats are a laquer based dye (think of it as painted on) and will wear and react differently than the Porsche leather which is a traditinal dyed leather. On a Ferrari seat, you can sand off the dye and change the color if the seat if needed be, the Porsche leather is dyed all the way through.
 
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Actually I've thought going the other way - blending the interior to match the seats. The leather the seats are made out of smells so rich and the finish is supurb - I would want not to impulsively loose that. A color matched red shifter boot and armrest cover and then natural porsche rear seats and door inserts (the color is close) is what I've thought about. Any thoughts on blending the interior would be appreciated.

not possible to do an exact match unless you buy the leather already dyed. it's a laquer based dye.

Opt 1.
You can sand the stock seats, then use one of leatherique's dye kits to redye it in the traditional method and do the same for the new leather pieces in the car. Everything would be an exact match at that point.

Opt 2.
You can get the stock seats recovered and new interior pieces made up at the same time. This is going to set you back well over $10,000

Opt 3.
Not sure where in the world you are, but you can look for dismantlers and buy scrap pieces of leather from the car. I'm assuming you go the seats from Eurospares, and most of the 599's had a full leather interior. Just inquire about buying the leather dash, door panels, roof liner, rear luggage shelf, etc, etc. Some piece you can probably just pull the leather off and sell back the rest of the part. Find a good local upholstry shop and have them do the rest of the work for you in fitting it to your car

Opt 4.
Match the color but go with a different material. A Alcantara covered interior looks pretty sweet, is more custom and close to an actual race car, and would give a nice soft texture to the car.

You really would have an easier time just converting your tan seats to black (could still keep the red inserts and then add some red to the rest of the car. as an accent piece, you would't need a perfect match)

good luck with the project and please post pics when you're done.
 
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and you live in Germany!!! You have more guts than many I know.

I hate to say this but you need to re-do the seats in black. I know I know the leather on them now is the best but still......
 
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Originally Posted by mille162
Steve,

Actually Ferrari seats are made by LEAR, they are the largest OE producer of seats. The same internal frame is used on the Maserati Coupe/Gransport, 996 Sport/Turbo, Ferrari 360/430 standard/Daytona. The 550/575/599/612 seats are also made by LEAR, but use a different frame. The Sport seats with the carbon shell also have a different frame.

Right now, in the exotic world, Recaro is making the Lamborghini Gallardo model seats, and the Recaro GT3 raceshell (adapted directly from their racing shell), however they are not making the standard, sport, GT3RS or GT2 seats for Porsche. I have not been able to get my hands on a Murci seat to confirm it's Recaro, but I do not think it is.

OMP made the Ferrari Challenge shells, Momo the Diablo GTR and Sparco the Ferrari CS and Maserati GSVictory edition. Still trying to get my hands on a pair of 430 Scud seats, but betting on Sparco given the seats profile.

How am I so sure about all of this? RaceChairs takes the seats out of all of these cars and converts them into office chairs. I've had all of them apart, and usually 1 model of each here in storage at my office. We are also an authorized Recaro, OMP and Pininfarina dealer.

Of interesting note for those considering a similar project...the 996 and 997 mounting bolt patterns are supposed to be the same. We remove the motors and sliders in our chair conversions and then offer them to dismantlers/recycelers or on ebay. I have had half a dozen Porsche customers buy the 997 brackets to use in mounting a new seat in their 996. I have not done it myself, but several people have confirmed it bolted right in for them.

Since the 996 seat uses the same basic framework as the Ferrari seats, it would be possible to buy the lower rails and bracket from a 996 and mount directly to the frame of a Ferrari 360/430 model (or any of the others above) and then drop straight into your 996/997.

If anyone is ever pulling a good set of seats our of your car to do this, please drop me a pm if you're interested in selling them, we're always looking for new inventory.

thanks

Ron.
Ron, Thanks for all of the details. What I have been able to do is install the drivers F Car 599 Drivers seat with out any mods into my 996. The wiring is simple, less the button (on the head rest) that releases the seat to flop foward for passanger access.

The passanger seat has been the delemma. I've found the wiring to move it back and forward but not the wiring to recline the seat. I've designed a wireless remote system that will allow of the systems to work (6 channel) but lack the last info on the recline motors. I'd be happy to share my design and sources for a little help on the wiring of the 599 seat controls.

WR
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