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Old 01-27-2010 | 08:06 AM
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996 to 997 headlight conversion

We at Precision Porsche are always trying to do different things and offer the 996 porsche community new products like our custom 997 TA side skirts and the TA GT street rear, our turbo bumpers for the 996 nb to a full blown 997 GT street conversion

With that said, we are currently in the R&D phase of doing a simple 997 headlight conversion on the 996. I know that some of us prefer the classic porsche oval headlights but don't want to sell our 996's just to get that look so we are trying to see how feasible (price and quality) it is to do this conversion.

Our goal is simple... make it as easy as possible to the end user. The plan is that all you will need are the 997 headlights plus a set of our custom fenders (retain stock hood and bumper) and you're done (well, not really...read on )

Three obstacles exist... one is the angle/fitment of the headlights. We will be reusing the stock headlight plug so we want to make sure that the fitment of the headlights and the angle of the projector/headlight beam is good.

The second obstacle will be the front blinker as we all know that it is built into our 996 headlights. We are trying to find a simple way of fixing that issue. Right now as we see it, it may be a custom LED set up like I have on my porsche.

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The third obstacle is the oem front bumper and the little cut off it has for the bottom of the headlights. The bad news is that we are pretty sure the 997 headlights will not fit perfectly around that part of the bumper and if that's the case, the end user will need a new bumper. The good news is that if this is the case, we will be making a barage of different front bumpers for this conversion (997 gt2, 997 gt3, 997 TA, etc). Obviously, once we go this route, the price will no longer be kept at a minimum so we need to be ready for that.

Btw, we plan also having a option for wider front fenders for all those guys that track their porsches or want to fit wider wheels in the front.

This is still in the preliminary test phase. So... with all that said, would YOU do this conversion? Please vote here

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Old 01-27-2010 | 12:39 PM
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Do you need a car to test this out on?
 
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Old 01-27-2010 | 02:16 PM
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Why don't you guys come out with an idea that uses the 996 bumper and fenders/hood and incorporates the 997 headlights with some kind of adaptor for the connectors, then, you create just a plastic "paintable to code" part that fills the gap between the 997 light and the hood/fender?
Painting kept to a minimum and retaining a lot of OEM parts on your car.
 
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Old 01-27-2010 | 02:32 PM
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this is what I'm talking bout...



original 996 fenders, bumper and hood. 997 headlights and precision porsche filler pieces.
 
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Old 01-27-2010 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by JoelPirela
this is what I'm talking bout...



original 996 fenders, bumper and hood. 997 headlights and precision porsche filler pieces.
Joel,

When you say filler peices, do you mean a peice you add onto the oem 996 fender to fill in the space or a whole new fender?

That would be a great idea if the angle and fitment of the headlights fit that perfectly on the stock bumper. We dont' want to mess with wiring so we plan on plugging the 997 headlight straight into the 996 harness (we believe this is doable)

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Originally Posted by JoelPirela
this is what I'm talking bout...



original 996 fenders, bumper and hood. 997 headlights and precision porsche filler pieces.
This has merit. I like it!

If a tuner does it (i.e. Gemballa mixing GTC lights, is ok) I don't see why not. That would be updating the lights, but keeping the 996 /not poser.
 

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yes, edwin, just 2 small triangles with the correct shapes/angles, etc. not 2 fenders. I still think is doable. The fist step would be to buy one or two 997 lights from ebay and see if they fit the opening and connector tray from your 996. The rest would be moulding/fabrication in fiberglass and attachment points for the 2 little triangles.
 
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I honestly believe that if you guys come up with a way to update the lights, without having the change a whole lot, a lot of people would sign up. I know I would.

My car is a 99. I do not like the MKI lights, but I do not really like the MKII lights either which is an option if I do a '02 facelift (yes with new fenders and bumper and all). And, I do not want to update to 997 facelift as I am not pretending to "reskin" a 996. Thus, this leaves the option proposed by Joel as "my ideal option".
 
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Originally Posted by JoelPirela
this is what I'm talking bout...



original 996 fenders, bumper and hood. 997 headlights and precision porsche filler pieces.
Million dollar idea, sign me up.
 
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Million dollar idea, sign me up.
I like it too, I'm intersted.
 
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This is a great idea!!!!!!!! Re: the bumper, can the front gaps be filled in with some body filler? I know I used an epoxy filler on a urethane panel once and it worked great. I don't see why a similar idea could not be adapted for use in the present application. Also, what material would you make the fender out of? Maybe the existing fender could also have a filler piece epoxied into place and then sanded out to mate up with the hood??
 

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Originally Posted by JoelPirela
this is what I'm talking bout...



original 996 fenders, bumper and hood. 997 headlights and precision porsche filler pieces.
Great idea, I just see one problem: Where do the foglights go? With this, you would have to cut a hole in the bumper or somewhere...
If theres a way to do this and keep the foglights I'm all for this, love the way it looks.
 
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Originally Posted by JoelPirela
yes, edwin, just 2 small triangles with the correct shapes/angles, etc. not 2 fenders. I still think is doable. The fist step would be to buy one or two 997 lights from ebay and see if they fit the opening and connector tray from your 996. The rest would be moulding/fabrication in fiberglass and attachment points for the 2 little triangles.
Joel,

Great idea... I think that's doable if the 997 lights connect right up to the 996 plug and fits well right into the "oval" shape of the fender and bumper. If that is the case, we can definitely make that little triangle peice but we would make it where the shop would have to mold it onto the fender. I personally don't think a little standalone triangle peice would look very attractive (imo).

We still have the question/issue of turn signals... a car won't pass inspection if there are no turn signals in the front. I can see where we can wire it into the side marker but not sure if that will pass. We'll definitely look more into this tohugh

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This is a great idea!!!!!!!! Re: the bumper, can the front gaps be filled in with some body filler? I know I used an epoxy filler on a urethane panel once and it worked great. I don't see why a similar idea could not be adapted for use in the present application. Also, what material would you make the fender out of? Maybe the existing fender could also have a filler piece epoxied into place and then sanded out to mate up with the hood??
99% of our products would be made out of fiberglass. it would be alot easier to make that triangle peice and mold it onto the oem fender.

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Great idea, I just see one problem: Where do the foglights go? With this, you would have to cut a hole in the bumper or somewhere...
If theres a way to do this and keep the foglights I'm all for this, love the way it looks.
the foglights will be gone as we are talking about replacing the 996 headlights with the 997 completely.

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I would buy it for my mkI and install a Stand-alone amber LED strip for a turn signal in the front bumper> it would be far enough back that it would be out of site until they are lit up to turn. I wouldnt worry about inspection, if done properly, they dont know whats factory installed and whats aftermarket.
 
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I like the idea of using as many EOM parts as possible. It will be interesting to see what is possible. I was quite surprised what the Mk2 lights go for.

Here is the path I took.
 
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