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Old 03-20-2005, 12:51 AM
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996 Stock vs 996 Supercharge

I wonder if the diference in power between a 996 Sc vs 996 Stock is the same as this BMW E46 M3 Supercharge vs E46 M3 Stock on the video
It´s amazing how´s the stock M3 is totally smoked by the SC car!!!!!

Those who´ve made the SC mod care to comment on this please. Have you ever had the chance to put your 996SC next to a stock 996? Thanks in advance

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http://www.e46psi.com/link/click.php?action=go&to=video
 
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Old 03-20-2005, 01:58 AM
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The s/c definitely makes a big difference, the stock turbos have nothing over me, however, if I had it to do over again I would'nt. The hard start problems, a coolant leak that still is not fixed properly, and poor service after the sale is not worth the extra power, at least not to me. Save your money and buy the turbo. Just my two cents.
 
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Re: supercharger

Originally posted by 996
The s/c definitely makes a big difference, the stock turbos have nothing over me, however, if I had it to do over again I would'nt. The hard start problems, a coolant leak that still is not fixed properly, and poor service after the sale is not worth the extra power, at least not to me. Save your money and buy the turbo. Just my two cents.

I´ve asked not because I´m interested on the SC system , but only to know if the SC is indeed that fast over a stock 996.
Anyway I´m with you, buying a 996Turbo is the best mod you can make to a stock 996 like mine

You don´t seem to be quite happy with all you´ve experience with the upgrade. Do you have a TPC or EVO system?

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Not CARB approved, big problem in Ca, impossible resale until that's resolved.
Some guys really seem to like them, I have my doubts about their reliability on the track. I almost pulled the trigger twice this winter. I decided, as I have become more of a track junkie and less bling, reliability is #1. I'll end up with an x51, I know it costs more and has less power, but I'd trust it more at 150mph on the back straight at Watkins Glen.
 
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You cannot compare a stock 996 with a properly supercharged 996. Instant power with a safe and reliable mod. When was the last time a stock TT went from 0 - 100 in less than 9 seconds?
 
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Re: supercharger

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The s/c definitely makes a big difference, the stock turbos have nothing over me, however, if I had it to do over again I would'nt. The hard start problems, a coolant leak that still is not fixed properly, and poor service after the sale is not worth the extra power, at least not to me. Save your money and buy the turbo. Just my two cents.
not to mention you will have a limited market for your car when you sell it since most 911 buyers today are posuers and don't want the potential for higher repair bills (real or percieved and perception is everything) given they don't even "drive" the cars anyway. further, if you eventually sell the car in CA, you'll have to pay a couple thousand to take it off (labor is higher than when a profit is being made on the SC) when you sell it since it won't pass smog despite promises for a year and half that they're "working on it". when mine was installed back in 10/03, the C.A.R.B. cert was going to be obtained in the 1st qtr of 04, then "spring", then "by the end of summer", etc. while i "eventually" sold my car for probably less than it would have been worth without the SC (didn't want to go through the hassle of having it removed), i probably wouldn't do it again either.
 

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Originally posted by J.Seven
I´ve asked not because I´m interested on the SC system , but only to know if the SC is indeed that fast over a stock 996.
Anyway I´m with you, buying a 996Turbo is the best mod you can make to a stock 996 like mine

You don´t seem to be quite happy with all you´ve experience with the upgrade. Do you have a TPC or EVO system?

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an SC'd 996 sill smoke a non SC'd one. there is a night and day diff. as for the TT vs. SC'd 996 comments, remember the former is an AWD porky pig with a computer deciding how much power goes to the front while the other is more of a drivers car (assuming you are talking about the C2).
 

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I think they just compared. From the sounds of it, the S/C is for some people and not for others. It is a very reasonable viewpoint that someone would be concerned with an add-on that some people out there have expressed some frustration with. A S/C could, and I mean could, compromise the reliability of the 996 durability in the long run. Whatever ones personal stance on it might be, an objective consideration has to at least consider the negative ramifications of adding a S/C - price plummet being one. Get a turbo - it costs more but -- its a Porsche. There is no substitute! That is why we all bought one, right?
 
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Re: Re: supercharger

Originally posted by ben, lj
most 911 buyers today are posuers and don't want the potential for higher repair bills (real or percieved and perception is everything) given they don't even "drive" the cars anyway.
Hey, whadaya mean, poser? I "drive" my car!...I drive it to Starbucks!
 
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Hey, whadaya mean, poser? I "drive" my car!...I drive it to Starbucks!
 
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Originally posted by 1999Porsche911
You cannot compare a stock 996 with a properly supercharged 996. Instant power with a safe and reliable mod. When was the last time a stock TT went from 0 - 100 in less than 9 seconds?
My 996 "Turbo" does... And I believe it is faster than your 996 in any given category.

Supercharging a C2 doesn't make sense to me, but to each his own.
 
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Re: Re: Re: supercharger

Originally posted by ben, lj
an SC'd 996 sill smoke a non SC'd one. there is a night and day diff. as for the TT vs. SC'd 996 comments, remember the former is an AWD porky pig with a computer deciding how much power goes to the front while the other is more of a drivers car (assuming you are talking about the C2).
I agree, sorry J Seven, I compared my s/c 996 to the turbo because the stock 996 is no comparison. My point is, with the other problems the s/c created, I would'nt do it again. I had planned on keeping this car and was not concerned with the resale value, however, with the problems I've had and little or no support to get the problems fixed from the s/c supplier or the installer, this car has become a real bad experience for me. I have the evo s/c that was installed by Meridian. Now that you got me started l have to vent. I was suppose to drop my car off to have the Porsche silver crested center caps installed (that were suppose to be installed with the Techarts two months earlier), to have the seats upgraded to c/f backed sport seats, and to fix the s/c leak. Simple enough. The parts were all suppose to be there so it was suppose to take 3 days to complete. Three weeks later my car was delivered (to compensate me for the time I was without the car) to my detailer who called me highly upset. When I made a special trip from out of state to see the car this is what I found:
The whole car was covered in bird crap that ate into the paint. It was so bad that it could not be buffed out! It had to be colored sanded and then buffed. Virtually, all area of the car were hit!
When they changed the center caps, they scrathed the rear brake caliper across the Porsche decal that had just be powder coated by Eric Sandoval.
The c/f dash strips warped and delaminated
Both dash vents were warped and delaminated
The leather dash crinkled up!
The c/f seats backs were scrathed and nicked
The s/c still leaked, they could'nt find it, if I knew how to post pics I could show you my garage floor.
The drivers side speaker was warped and cracked

I know this is way off the subject, but I've keep it all in until now. Most of the problems occurred from keeping the car outside for three weeks in the summer heat with the windows up. Everything has been repaired or replaced except the leak and hard start problem that evidently I have to live with. The dealer was very simpathetic and changed the c/f and the dash under warrenty. Thanks Family Motors of Bakerfield! and to Brian and Niel at NR Auto for replacing the seats that Meridian damaged. And in fairness Meridian did pay $1347.48 for the repaires that were not fixed under warranty. All thats left is to be compensated for the repair of the paint. This story is why my dream car has turned into my worst nightmare. Hey, at least its fast!
 

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Originally posted by Hamann7
My 996 "Turbo" does... And I believe it is faster than your 996 in any given category.

Supercharging a C2 doesn't make sense to me, but to each his own.

Sorry, but a stock TT doesn't come close to beating my 996 SC to 120 mph. If you can get a time of less than 9 seconds from a dead stop to 100 mph, then your TT is not stock.
 
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