Tire Question -- N3 Rating vs. N4
#1
Tire Question -- N3 Rating vs. N4
I'm about to order a set of 18" tires. I see that both Michelin (Pilot Sport PS2) and Pirelli (P Zero Rosso) make Porsche-spec "N-rated" tires. The Michelin are rated N3 and the Pirelli are N4. Is there a reason to prefer one over the other? Is N4 a newer design?
BTW, my original 17" tires are Michelins with an N1 rating.
Also, anyone have any experience with Tread Depot?
BTW, my original 17" tires are Michelins with an N1 rating.
Also, anyone have any experience with Tread Depot?
#2
Technically, N4 meets newer standards than an N3, but any N-rated tire is approved by Porsche and should do fine. Make your choice on the individual qualities of the tire.
Unlikely, but suppose you find a batch of tires at a shop that are a mixture of N2's & N3's within the same make of tires, then try to keep the ratings consistent within the set you're putting on the car. (Preferably the newer ratings as it implies that the tires have been redesigned, so you may as well get the newest tires.)
No experience with Tread Depot.
Unlikely, but suppose you find a batch of tires at a shop that are a mixture of N2's & N3's within the same make of tires, then try to keep the ratings consistent within the set you're putting on the car. (Preferably the newer ratings as it implies that the tires have been redesigned, so you may as well get the newest tires.)
No experience with Tread Depot.
#3
IIRC All N rated tires will start as a N0. As that mfg updates that model it will get a higher N number. I.E. N0 then N1 then N2 and so one. A Pirelli N3 would have NOTHING in common with a Michelin N4 and just because the Michelin is a N4 does NOT mean it is a newer version then a Pirelli N3. It just means the Michelin is now on the 5th generation of that model tire.
Do you have to run N rated tires on your Porsche? No. Does Porsche recomend it? Yes. But that is a whole different can of worms on N rate or not N rated.
Do you have to run N rated tires on your Porsche? No. Does Porsche recomend it? Yes. But that is a whole different can of worms on N rate or not N rated.
#6
Thanks everyone. I'm going to order the Michelins because I understand that they're more comfortable. I still have the original 17" wheels and tires that came with my car when new, so I'm a little concerned about a stiffer ride with the 18" tires.
I ordered 18" Sport Techno wheels and I'm really looking forward to the new look. I'll take before and after photos when I have them installed.
I ordered 18" Sport Techno wheels and I'm really looking forward to the new look. I'll take before and after photos when I have them installed.
#7
From my research, I found more people like the N rated PS2s than the PZeros, especially after some wear. Good choice, IMHO. BTW, I got mine from Costco, installed, far cheaper ($1400 total), and really nice job, too, with hazard insurance and N2 fill.
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#9
Do not get the Sumi HRTZ-IIs. They are total crap, performance, noise, handling, flatspotting, wet..you name it..except wear. They wear fantastic. I ijust got rid of my set to go with the N3 PS2s. The fronts still had 6/32 on the front, and the rears had 4 on th einside and 7 on the outside after ~18k miles. I understand the HRTZ-III is a much better tire.
#10
I bought a set of HRT-ZIIIs. I got about 15,000 miles out of the rears, and I still had more tread left on the fronts. I got rid of them and went back to PS2s because of the noise and reduced cabability of the Sumis as they wore. They were good for the first 5,000 miles or so, and they went downhill fast after that. The car feels better than ever with PS2s and a fresh alignment. Personally, I won't buy Sumis again. I had a similar experience with Hankooks. I was never particularly happy with Pirelli P-Zeros. My best experience has been with Michelins and Continentals.
#11
I bought a set of HRT-ZIIIs. I got about 15,000 miles out of the rears, and I still had more tread left on the fronts. I got rid of them and went back to PS2s because of the noise and reduced cabability of the Sumis as they wore. They were good for the first 5,000 miles or so, and they went downhill fast after that. The car feels better than ever with PS2s and a fresh alignment. Personally, I won't buy Sumis again. I had a similar experience with Hankooks. I was never particularly happy with Pirelli P-Zeros. My best experience has been with Michelins and Continentals.
+1 on Mich. & Conti! Traditionally Contis have a harder rubber compound & last a long time if maintained properly, but they are becoming more Hi Perf oriented. Mich usually has the highest percentage of natural rubber content which I assume is the secrect to their overall superiority.
#12
Thanks everyone. I'm going to order the Michelins because I understand that they're more comfortable. I still have the original 17" wheels and tires that came with my car when new, so I'm a little concerned about a stiffer ride with the 18" tires.
I ordered 18" Sport Techno wheels and I'm really looking forward to the new look. I'll take before and after photos when I have them installed.
I ordered 18" Sport Techno wheels and I'm really looking forward to the new look. I'll take before and after photos when I have them installed.
#14
Oggie, please give me a call if I can help.
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