Never had any problems when high speed cornering, much better than when it was stock. I go atleast 100 when getting on the 405 north from 133

 

give it a couple thousand miles for the shocks to wear out

 

skip the springs get coilovers like pss9's...

 

anyone have personal experiences with your shox failing?

 

I'll Be selling my springs as soon as my car gets back. any offers out there?

 

didn't you read anything I wrote????

yes, my shocks completely failed. when we took the rears off they could be compressed completely by hand. totally smoked after about 6K miles on lowering springs. only about 15K total on the car.

 

Thanks guys. So, $250 each for shocks? That's $1000 + 300 for the springs, for $500 more I'd get PSS-9s? Is the difference worth $500 for a no track day car?

 

YES!!! You will get a much more comfortable ride with teh PSS9's, plus you can lower it as much as YOU want and set the dampening (stiffness) of the shocks where you want it so it can be as stiff or as soft as YOU want it. By the way, it takes 5 minutes to adjust the shock dampening so if you want to have it smooth M-F for your commute and on saturday when you hit the canyons with your buddies, you can set it stiffer for better handling. This is also a MATCHED set of shocks and springs that have a lifetime warranty on them as well....The quality is quite good.

 

yes. one, you can set your ride height up to where you want it. up to about 40mm or so lower than stock. can't go much lower than or you will exceed the maximum travel on the pss9's. two, you can set the damping up for your needs. some people tighten the rear up to lessen the squat under hard acceleration. three, it's a matched spring shock combo designed to work together. lastly, the pss9's are for a non track car. they're not aggressive enough for the track and you can't slam them so that the top of the tire is in the wheel well. they're a very good compromise for the street as the handling is much better than stock and the ride quality is still excellent.


EDIT: Didn't mean to duplicate Newport's post. I think we replied at the same time. Great minds think alike

 

upps... sorry

 

Just got my ride back from the dealer for 30,000 mi service. Clean bill of health, no problems, just needed to replace a wiper blade. $725.00. I asked the sevice manager at Champion about this shock issue and he told me that they lower Porches all the time using H&R springs and never heard of shock failure. Wha-da-ya make of that? Surely he would have tried to sell me better shocks or a PSS-9 set up.

 

then he's either mildly retarded or who has no idea what he's talking about. i'm sure he does do them all the time. most people, myself included, want to cheap out and do the springs. keep the car for a little while and you'll see what i'm talking about.

it's common sense here. the stock shocks are designed to work with a specified amount of travel. now reduced the travel by 40 mm and what do you think will happen? i'm willing to guess most of his customers either don't know much about their cars and can't tell the difference or they don't keep their cars long enough to see the ill affects (which is probalby the case). when i said failure, i didn't mean the fall apart and you car goes scraping down the road. they just lose all their damping ability. i would be concerned with any service manager that would give you advice like that. everybody i asked was honest with me and basically told me the same stuff i am telling you. i took my chances and got a year out of that setup before it became scary. now if you put around town and never push the car, don't worry about it. however, if you push the car a bit and you plan on keeping it for a while, just get the coilovers. you've got an $80K dollar for cryin' out loud. what's an extra $1500 at this point? people on the forums told me not to do the springs. i went ahead and did it anyway to save a few bucks. i ended up wasting a grand and had to buy new suspension pieces in the long run. listen to us grasshopper been there, done that.

 

Yes listen to D Dog. He is speaking from experience. The springs alone are a cheap way out and on these cars why go cheap? I am not saying spend money just to spend it but we are talking about the suspension. Something you feel everytime you drive the car. Here's a few questions. What if you put springs on your car and its too low or not low enough? What happens if your ride quality is too harsh? What happens if your handling is not as good as you expected? Add to that the fact that you will have premature shock wear and that can cause a host of other issues. Plus the money you are saving is like 500 or 1000 bucks. So why go through the headache for that little money on an 80k car? If you wanna do it th "pimp my ride" way then get just springs. But to do it the right way you need matched shocks or a coilover setup. The BEST way is coilovers.

 

Not to add fuel to the fire...but I have H&R's with stock M030 shocks on my 996. They were on there when I bought the car and had only been on there for about 5K miles. Origional shocks have somewhere around 25K miles on them. The car looks good from a visual standpoint..rides worse than my M3 that has 600lb springs and does the pogo thing that everyone talks about. Been to the track twice with the car now in the two months that I've owned it and the suspension is def. not up to par.

Cliff Notes: Car looks great...handles like poo.

 

and there you have it