Well I finally did it!!! I had my stock 3.6L mufflers modified
#32
Originally Posted by Zose
For those that have done this mod, can you tell me if there is a visual way to tell the difference between the 3.4L cans and the 3.6L cans? I'm planning on doing the MKII mod to my 2002 targa and I'm picking up a set of mufflers from a shop that had them as a take offs from someone elses car. I just want to verify that I get the 3.6L cans so I can do the mod correctly.
Thanks
Mike
Thanks
Mike
3.6L cans have the "accordion" on the output pipe. 3.4L does NOT.
#33
I have read thru a lot of post for this mod, so if the mod does not sound exactly like the pse then, even though the cans look same from the outside the internals have to be different because you guys are doing the mod just like the porshce does in the factory except for the open close valve.
#34
Originally Posted by cgng30
I have read thru a lot of post for this mod, so if the mod does not sound exactly like the pse then, even though the cans look same from the outside the internals have to be different because you guys are doing the mod just like the porshce does in the factory except for the open close valve.
#35
Originally Posted by phaphaphooey
i have read all of the posts too as i am interested in the mod as well and the difference seems to be subjective and opinion at best. as you stated, there is no physical reason why they should not sound the same, and to my knowledge, no one has lined up a hacked car with an oem pse car to see if there really is a difference. without that, these threads will always be "i have heard a real pse 4 years ago, and my hacked muffler sounds way better/worse than the real pse" type thing.
#36
Originally Posted by deputydog95
i had my mufflers hacked and then immediatley went to a car meet in south florida. i parked my car next to a car with pse we ran them simulataneously with each other taking turns revving the cars while the other stood outside to listen. mine did not sound the pse. it was better than stock, but not the pse. the pse sounded better.
#37
Originally Posted by phaphaphooey
well, even though other members have reported opposite findings, it seems that i stand corrected. thanks for the input on the pse. so what do you think makes your's different from real pse cans?
i got rid of the hacks. i didn't like them. everything is subjective though.
the guy i used for a comparison is a board member here. i think it was carbonismo or something like that. those that listened them all agreed that they didn't sound as good as the real thing.
hey, if someone is happy with the hacked cans, then that is all that matters. like i said, everything is subjective. you certainly save a lot of money going that way.
#38
Originally Posted by deputydog95
cause mine are made by cargraphic
i got rid of the hacks. i didn't like them. everything is subjective though.
the guy i used for a comparison is a board member here. i think it was carbonismo or something like that. those that listened them all agreed that they didn't sound as good as the real thing.
hey, if someone is happy with the hacked cans, then that is all that matters. like i said, everything is subjective. you certainly save a lot of money going that way.
i got rid of the hacks. i didn't like them. everything is subjective though.
the guy i used for a comparison is a board member here. i think it was carbonismo or something like that. those that listened them all agreed that they didn't sound as good as the real thing.
hey, if someone is happy with the hacked cans, then that is all that matters. like i said, everything is subjective. you certainly save a lot of money going that way.
same characteristics as the pse but not nearly as loud. i dont know if the installation techniques are different in the people that claim it is as loud.
i posted a similar comment in another thread that this mod is worth it if you can have everything done for $50. otherwise try to pick up some used mufflers which are everywhere on ebay.
#40
actually, after driving for a few days i am satisfied with this mod. i have paid way more than $50 for other stuff (CAI) that i thought would give me better sound, but this is definitely better.
how much did a shop charge you to open up the mufflers and work the internals.
how much did a shop charge you to open up the mufflers and work the internals.
#42
Originally Posted by 3deep
Correct me if im wrong, but arnt you supposed to cut the can open and run the pipe from first chamber.Not just cut a hole and connect from outside of can.
#43
What difference would it make to the sound if the bypass pipe was smaller - would it change the tone or just the volume? Or have no effect?
Also, does anyone know of any sort of valve that would work in this setup - I'm thinking an adjustable version could be quite cool, although getting up in the space to adjust the valve could be a challenge.
Also, does this mod have the same sort of resonance issues that many of the aftermarket ones do?
Also, does anyone know of any sort of valve that would work in this setup - I'm thinking an adjustable version could be quite cool, although getting up in the space to adjust the valve could be a challenge.
Also, does this mod have the same sort of resonance issues that many of the aftermarket ones do?
#44
No resonance issues, yes the pipe size makes a difference, but it is something I would keep to the same size as the removed plug.
If you want a valve, just buy the PSE...
If you want a valve, just buy the PSE...