Can we stop the bickering ladies??? This has already gotten way outta hand!

 

sorry heavy but thats wasnt an attack on the 911. its a fact that most people will agree its design is dated and needs change. and more change than the little changes porsche has made over the course of 40 years

i mean look at the refresh

 

hateration? lol . . . The Porsche is a legend for a reason, the same reason that every car maker prays to instill some of that mystique in their own models by targeting each model of the 911 in their performance testing. Ie the gimmicks that Nissan attempted by rattling off Ring lap times.

As I stated "IMHO" the car looks like the G37 with revised angles.

By the way, ever see a car maker attempt to mimic an altima?

If you never drove a Porsche, more specifically the turbo, you may not understand what I am saying.

 

well to bad the Gimmick has now set the new benchmark

 

while i dont own a porsche. I have driven and continue to drive 911 turbos, Carreras, a GT3 and a CGT. all of which are cars one of my friends own. and i most definitely know what makes the porsche stand above the rest.

when i frist starting driving them i was completely amazed and still think they are great cars. and the CGT is ****ing scary and insane b.c its nothing for the back end to come out from under you

But Nissan has done their job, set the new benchmark "and the best 911 ever made" as quoted is the NIssan GT-R

 

Well, look, if you believe that the GTR is a better car a "bench mark" ok. But, riding around the block is different than engaging yourself in the car.

Here is my test for you to really think about. . . Same money, so that the financial issue doesn't drive your decision. GTR or 997tt? If you chose GTR you need more seat time in a Porsche.

In my mind there is no doubt that the 997 is a better built, better looking and, yes, faster. (look at traps and weight of the GTR vs. 997tt)

 

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Is there more to a car than #'s/stats?

 

haha you're a funny guy. your bias is speaking now.


reviews have already commented on the GT-R interior being on par with the 911's and the car feeling tough as nails an being built to take abuse.

so i laugh as thoses statments. you are sounding like heavy now.

 

youre right we are talking about the endless track results. numbers and stats are no longer a concern now that the vehicle is on the track and showing its numbers and stats areny hype

 

Heavychevy. Have you ever considered that magazine testers may be deliberately going slow in the Z06 and 911 just so that they can laugh at your reaction?

 

Hey guess what fellas?

In the new car and driver magazine, they ran the GT-R in the 1/4th and it ran a 11.5@124 MPH

I dont have the scans yet

 

That is completely impossible. There are only 24 hours in a day.

My point? I'm not sure anymore, I'm too busy laughing. I think it was something to do with you not being able to accept an overwhelming amount of evidence that the GTR is faster than the current 911TT and GT3.

I hope the new 911TT is better, as it will move the game one. However, for some reason I feel that if exactly the same testers drive the new 911 faster than the GTR, they will be instantly transformed from ******-bags to motoring gods, and their tests will be the only perfectly legitimate and fair tests. Funny old thing that.

Now if only moderators could remove your breeding priviledges. I think you'll find that you broke many rules, or more laws really, the laws of physics that is.

I heard you smashed your Scalextric track when a scale model GTR beat your GT2 anyway.

I joined this forum as a Porsche fan and have owned a 993TT in the past. I came mainly for up-to-date Porsche information but that doesn't mean that I can't watch the sideshow does it?
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Such as? R&T tested the vehicles as stock just as the other testers have. I'm sorry if you thought the 911 and Z06 should have been on Yokohama A048s or some kind of napalm superglue rubber. That's not the way stock vs stock testing goes.

Answer me this. Have you ever driven any GTR? R32, 33, 34 or 35?

 

+1 in agreement with your statement. I can accept that a GT-R may perform better in certain arenas, but it has a long way to go before being considered the "benchmark" for sports cars.

I doubt we'll be reading articles with the words "almost as fast as a GTR" or "faster than a GTR!" Everyone's going to say, WTF is a GT-R?

It is what it is: an expensive, fast Nissan. And there's nothing wrong with that. But if a GT-R owner drives it around thinking that people wanted it more than a Porsche 911, they'd be sorely mistaken. There is nothing classic about the GT-R, and like many mentioned here: its big and its ugly.

 

stop the f bombs please.

and

oh forget it.