3M clear plastic film
#1
3M clear plastic film
Hi,is anyone familiar with this transparent film(or any other for that matter)to protect finish?Is it easy to apply?and replace?
I vaguely remember a post on a similar subject,but could not locate it
Thanks for your understanding and advice
I vaguely remember a post on a similar subject,but could not locate it
Thanks for your understanding and advice
#2
Go with VentureShield instead. It's a much better product optically and there's no yellowing in the film either. 3M liked the film so much that they bought out the product. I have this material on my entire hood and front fenders and couldn't be happier.
#3
Howdy atomic80.
I will be picking up my car in Germany(less than a month)so I hope they carry Ventureshield there.Sould I buy Venture here and bring to Germany?
Any shield should probably be professionally installed,no?
Or,hopefully the Porsche factory should be able to offer advice,regarding the finish protection.
Isn't finish protection something to be taken care of ASAP?
Thanks for the advice.
Ps:Maybe next year I can join some of you for a west coast trip
I will be picking up my car in Germany(less than a month)so I hope they carry Ventureshield there.Sould I buy Venture here and bring to Germany?
Any shield should probably be professionally installed,no?
Or,hopefully the Porsche factory should be able to offer advice,regarding the finish protection.
Isn't finish protection something to be taken care of ASAP?
Thanks for the advice.
Ps:Maybe next year I can join some of you for a west coast trip
#4
Hmmm....have you asked Porsche if they'd be able to provide VentureShield coverage? It'd be best to have it installed PRIOR to having you arrive since it takes some time to do it correctly. If not, then perhaps bring some with you and take a day or two to sightsee before picking up your car. You're going to have FUN over there! I went to the Porsche factory twice and enjoyed it each time.
#7
Hey Atomic 80 thanks alot for the Ventureshield recommendation,I see they have a b unch of certified installers in Germany:so I'll try to contact some.How long does installation last,and how soon can you drive once done?
Cheers
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#9
You usually can't wash your car for a few days after installation but other than that you're free to drive it right afterwards. They usually last for years to come. 3M had a lifetime warranty but I'm not sure about VS.
#12
I've had both:
Ventureshield Pros: easier to apply (but still needs a professional install), better overall appearance
3M clear bra: not as aesthetically pleasing, but definitely more resistant to tearing or scratching from gravel, etc...
If your car is mostly a street car, I would recommend Ventureshield. If your car see medium to heavy track time, I would definitely recommend the original 3M product.
Ventureshield Pros: easier to apply (but still needs a professional install), better overall appearance
3M clear bra: not as aesthetically pleasing, but definitely more resistant to tearing or scratching from gravel, etc...
If your car is mostly a street car, I would recommend Ventureshield. If your car see medium to heavy track time, I would definitely recommend the original 3M product.
#13
Also, the one fact most people fail to disclose/understand is that 3M actually has a clear-coat and can be compounded/polished to remove any subsequent damage after installation. Venture, as well as Avery, is only top-coated and your ability to remove any damage is nearly zilch. Also, they require much more maintenance than the 3M (which should be a major consideration for those of us who live in regions with high pollution - like the northeast). And finally, there is no film in the world that can be guaranteed not to yellow for a lifetime. That's a ridiculous claim which reminds me of the Ginsu knives warranty. The biggest advantage is that Venture comes in rolls 10" wider than 3M allowing the installer to cover larger panels in one piece.
I hope I didn't come across as attacking you, but as a professional who does this for a living I really get tired of people making blanket statements that one brand of film is superior to others, period. There is no one best film; it is all a compromise which the car owner should consider before making an educated decision.
#14
I hate to be disagreeable, but that is not true. First of all, the reason 3M bought out Venture tape was b/c of a metallic tape which they manufactured that 3M wanted to add to their line, not b/c of the PPF. Second, the top-coated Venture is not much better than the 3M. That's just my opinion, but I have been installing PPF for over 8 years and have the Venture, 3M and XPEL film on my personal car as a guinea pig; and not one person can tell the difference between them.
Also, the one fact most people fail to disclose/understand is that 3M actually has a clear-coat and can be compounded/polished to remove any subsequent damage after installation. Venture, as well as Avery, is only top-coated and your ability to remove any damage is nearly zilch. Also, they require much more maintenance than the 3M (which should be a major consideration for those of us who live in regions with high pollution - like the northeast). And finally, there is no film in the world that can be guaranteed not to yellow for a lifetime. That's a ridiculous claim which reminds me of the Ginsu knives warranty. The biggest advantage is that Venture comes in rolls 10" wider than 3M allowing the installer to cover larger panels in one piece.
I hope I didn't come across as attacking you, but as a professional who does this for a living I really get tired of people making blanket statements that one brand of film is superior to others, period. There is no one best film; it is all a compromise which the car owner should consider before making an educated decision.
Also, the one fact most people fail to disclose/understand is that 3M actually has a clear-coat and can be compounded/polished to remove any subsequent damage after installation. Venture, as well as Avery, is only top-coated and your ability to remove any damage is nearly zilch. Also, they require much more maintenance than the 3M (which should be a major consideration for those of us who live in regions with high pollution - like the northeast). And finally, there is no film in the world that can be guaranteed not to yellow for a lifetime. That's a ridiculous claim which reminds me of the Ginsu knives warranty. The biggest advantage is that Venture comes in rolls 10" wider than 3M allowing the installer to cover larger panels in one piece.
I hope I didn't come across as attacking you, but as a professional who does this for a living I really get tired of people making blanket statements that one brand of film is superior to others, period. There is no one best film; it is all a compromise which the car owner should consider before making an educated decision.
#15
First off I think to many people worry way to much about which film instead of who is installing it. If your installer sucks it doesn't matter which film you use - it will look like crap. I was at my dealership a few weeks ago and saw a 911 with film and the job was so bad it was laughable.
I think many (certainly those in the northeast) would agree that Detailing Dynamics is as good as anyone in the business. I had them do my car and had very lenghty conversations with Matt about which film to use. He would have gladly used either one (would probably prefer to install VS as it's much easier to do) but after speaking with them I was convinced that 3M was the best choice for me. The orange peel is minimal and noticed only at certain angles. I've been at many car meets and have seen people bending and tilting their head looking at my car trying to see the film. It's been on my car a year and has not changed colors at all. White may be a problem but I think it will be a probem with any film.
I've also heard many people say that VS will last much longer - it's only been around a couple of years, right? How would you know?
To the OP - find a great installer and go with the film that makes you comfortable.
I think many (certainly those in the northeast) would agree that Detailing Dynamics is as good as anyone in the business. I had them do my car and had very lenghty conversations with Matt about which film to use. He would have gladly used either one (would probably prefer to install VS as it's much easier to do) but after speaking with them I was convinced that 3M was the best choice for me. The orange peel is minimal and noticed only at certain angles. I've been at many car meets and have seen people bending and tilting their head looking at my car trying to see the film. It's been on my car a year and has not changed colors at all. White may be a problem but I think it will be a probem with any film.
I've also heard many people say that VS will last much longer - it's only been around a couple of years, right? How would you know?
To the OP - find a great installer and go with the film that makes you comfortable.