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PDK not to come to the 997/998TT for a long time

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Old 06-14-2008 | 05:50 AM
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PDK not to come to the 997/998TT for a long time

CAR magazine tried out the new 997 facelift with PDK, and the article had this interest tidbit in it:

"Currently, only the coupe and cabrio versions of the two-wheel drive Carrera can have the £2338 PDK option, but it will be fitted to the Carrera 4 when that is launched later in 2008 and the facelifted Boxster in 2009. But a 325lb ft limit in its current state rules it out from duty in the Turbo, GT3 and GT3. They’ll get PDK eventually, but it needs to be beefed up first."

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Old 06-14-2008 | 05:53 AM
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I'm sure they'll solve this problem fast...
 
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Originally Posted by jimmer23
CAR magazine tried out the new 997 facelift with PDK, and the article had this interest tidbit in it:

"Currently, only the coupe and cabrio versions of the two-wheel drive Carrera can have the £2338 PDK option, but it will be fitted to the Carrera 4 when that is launched later in 2008 and the facelifted Boxster in 2009. But a 325lb ft limit in its current state rules it out from duty in the Turbo, GT3 and GT3. They’ll get PDK eventually, but it needs to be beefed up first."

That sucks
The new Turbo will be a 991 not a 998. It will be out in 2011.
 
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Great thanks for your thought-provoking correction Dr. Porsche. Someone missed the point...
 
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Originally Posted by lardog
The new Turbo will be a 991 not a 998. It will be out in 2011.
I didnt ever belive it would be a 998 but where did you get the 991 info....

Sorry to be further off topic!
 
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Originally Posted by ZEMDOGG
I didn't ever believe it would be a 998 but where did you get the 991 info....

Sorry to be further off topic!
The next version will be 991. This is from a Friend that works for Porsche. I don't care what every body will say, But, I have a deposit on a 2011 991 turbo. Don't ask about specs. It's way to early for that.
 
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I find it a bit puzzling that they would use 991 for the next chassis code. Kind of a retrograde. I'll believe it when I see it. Hearsay is far too prevalent in this day and age.

Anyways, most likely (I think) they'll start offering PDK for 2010 Turbos. But I still can't get over how ugly the PDK steering wheel is!
 
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Originally Posted by atomic80
I find it a bit puzzling that they would use 991 for the next chassis code. Kind of a retrograde. I'll believe it when I see it. Hearsay is far too prevalent in this day and age.

Anyways, most likely (I think) they'll start offering PDK for 2010 Turbos. But I still can't get over how ugly the PDK steering wheel is!
930 964 993 996 997 991 The wheel is UGLY!!!
 
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Originally Posted by lardog
The new Turbo will be a 991 not a 998. It will be out in 2011.
I can't imagine the new chassis/body will be out in 2011. That will mean they will have the refreshed body/lights for maybe one year before a whole new model comes out?? Seems a bit unlikely.

Plus as others have pointed out, the new version usually comes out as a standard Carrera first, followed 2 yrs later or so by the turbo. So even if the new 991? Carrera came out in 2011, we wouldn't expect to see the new turbo before 2013.
 
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How good can it be if 325 ft# snaps it in half. If it could handle a turbo's tq, they would most def release it asap...problem is, it can't.
 
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If the next gen is called 991, then 2 gen later it will be 993 again. I now feel bad that I sold my 993 Targa...
 
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Very disappointing if true. BMW's SMG can already handle almost 400 lb-ft in the M5/M6 and Porsche's won't even handle more than 325. And what's with the clunky buttons instead of the paddles like every other make is using.
 
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cant wait 4 it !!
 
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Originally Posted by turbonator
Very disappointing if true. BMW's SMG can already handle almost 400 lb-ft in the M5/M6 and Porsche's won't even handle more than 325. And what's with the clunky buttons instead of the paddles like every other make is using.

smg is not the same. dont think it dual clutch.
 
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Originally Posted by turbonator
Very disappointing if true. BMW's SMG can already handle almost 400 lb-ft in the M5/M6 and Porsche's won't even handle more than 325. And what's with the clunky buttons instead of the paddles like every other make is using.
you got the gears mixed up ... SMG is like the F1 style gear (Manual with automatic clutch) ... the one in the porsche is the new DSG (it is only available in the new M3, not in the M5 or M6) ... this gear has only been advantageous in lower tq engines, however in the higher performance engines it has not been fitted as it has to be much larger and heavier than a traditional automatic for it to handle the extra tq, negating any benefits it may have. That is the reason why Mercedes have not fit it on the new SL63 AMG, and opted instead for a hybrid automatic tranny, with a few tweeks to eliminate the need for a tq convertor.

I would assume this is the same problem faced by porsche and other manufacturers with the DSG.
Currently the only makes that have them equiped are the low tq performance cars ( Audi: TT, A3 i think, and other small cars [R8, RS6 - which are the latest most innovative or their makes did not have them] VW: the small cars only, not sure exactly which) The only car manufacturer who claims to have it on a high performance car is Ferrari for their upcoming California GT (although im unsure about tq figures on that)

Hence as weight is of an essential element in a Porsche, it is unlikely that DSG would be available on the Turbo anytime soon unless they figure out another way of beefing the tranny up. Buggatti is the only supercar that has DSG, and with that car it is obvious that weight was not an issue, hence a beefed up DSG is OK.

A good comparision about the different gears may be found in the Top Gear Magazine, not sure what issue but should be either May or June.
The problem faced by the SL63 with the DSG is also from the Top Gear Magazine, however im also unsure about the issue as a read it on the plane a few months back, but it is during the time when the SL63 was just announced.

Thats my 0.04 cents worth :P
 


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