Pics & Review of My Bilstein PSS10 Lowered Red Turbo
#736
Thank you. In person/in reality it is very low, almost too low. For example I could just barely fit my fist underneath the front lip/spoiler, and in fact have been thinking about raising it 5 mm as I am scraping everything in site .
#737
Thank you and good to hear from you. It almost feels like a high-school reunion seeing the "old" names again.
#738
Epic thread indeed.
I just ordered the full Tractive DDA RTx setup from TPC. I'm doing the full track springs (110/150nm I believe). I'll be sure to review them here after I spend some time with them. I've become an avid track junkie + mountain/canyon carver every weekend.
I already had the TPC wide track kit which is basically sway bars, front LCA's, front spacers, DSC module for stock shocks. This time is the full set of RTx coilvers, rear 997.2 Cup LCAs, rear subframe bushings, rear toe links, and sway bar endlinks with teflon covers (for reduced NVH).
There's nothing to do after this unless I start stripping the car to save weight or change the tire choice to a different diameter tire (vs OEM tire height now).
I just ordered the full Tractive DDA RTx setup from TPC. I'm doing the full track springs (110/150nm I believe). I'll be sure to review them here after I spend some time with them. I've become an avid track junkie + mountain/canyon carver every weekend.
I already had the TPC wide track kit which is basically sway bars, front LCA's, front spacers, DSC module for stock shocks. This time is the full set of RTx coilvers, rear 997.2 Cup LCAs, rear subframe bushings, rear toe links, and sway bar endlinks with teflon covers (for reduced NVH).
There's nothing to do after this unless I start stripping the car to save weight or change the tire choice to a different diameter tire (vs OEM tire height now).
#739
340/565 are Bilstein spring rates AFAIK.
I would highly recommend that you get BOTH front and rear Tarett drop links. (Did someone recommend to get front only and if so was there a reason given?) The drop link affects stiffness A LOT and your car would be imbalanced with metallic heim joint (Tarett) in front and rubber (stock) in the back. It would cause car to understeer, very much *not* a good idea in our car. Lastly, it's the rear of the Turbo that needs to be stiffen as it likes to mambo a lot; hence if anything it's the rear that would benefit from Tarett drop link.
Have fun. The Tarett drop links are exactly what I would recommend next if you want to get rid of that soft floaty sensation. Another thing to try is Bridgestone RE 11 tire, which has a much stiffer sidewall than Super Sport. Noticeably so, instantly.
I would highly recommend that you get BOTH front and rear Tarett drop links. (Did someone recommend to get front only and if so was there a reason given?) The drop link affects stiffness A LOT and your car would be imbalanced with metallic heim joint (Tarett) in front and rubber (stock) in the back. It would cause car to understeer, very much *not* a good idea in our car. Lastly, it's the rear of the Turbo that needs to be stiffen as it likes to mambo a lot; hence if anything it's the rear that would benefit from Tarett drop link.
Have fun. The Tarett drop links are exactly what I would recommend next if you want to get rid of that soft floaty sensation. Another thing to try is Bridgestone RE 11 tire, which has a much stiffer sidewall than Super Sport. Noticeably so, instantly.
#740
If your car is completely stock I would vote for sway bar and drop link as the minimal first step, with the sway bar set to soft in front and medium stiffness in rear. Then test drive and see. If you don't feel the change is enough then you know you are looking at next step, which is lowering spring or coilover etc. Critical to use a good shop with an experienced tech so he could test and advise you if necessary.
What suspension mod is in your car now?
#741
Epic thread indeed.
I just ordered the full Tractive DDA RTx setup from TPC. I'm doing the full track springs (110/150nm I believe). I'll be sure to review them here after I spend some time with them. I've become an avid track junkie + mountain/canyon carver every weekend.
I already had the TPC wide track kit which is basically sway bars, front LCA's, front spacers, DSC module for stock shocks. This time is the full set of RTx coilvers, rear 997.2 Cup LCAs, rear subframe bushings, rear toe links, and sway bar endlinks with teflon covers (for reduced NVH).
There's nothing to do after this unless I start stripping the car to save weight or change the tire choice to a different diameter tire (vs OEM tire height now).
I just ordered the full Tractive DDA RTx setup from TPC. I'm doing the full track springs (110/150nm I believe). I'll be sure to review them here after I spend some time with them. I've become an avid track junkie + mountain/canyon carver every weekend.
I already had the TPC wide track kit which is basically sway bars, front LCA's, front spacers, DSC module for stock shocks. This time is the full set of RTx coilvers, rear 997.2 Cup LCAs, rear subframe bushings, rear toe links, and sway bar endlinks with teflon covers (for reduced NVH).
There's nothing to do after this unless I start stripping the car to save weight or change the tire choice to a different diameter tire (vs OEM tire height now).
#742
Hi it's a system approach and what works depends a lot on personal preference and the road condition where you drive, etc.
If your car is completely stock I would vote for sway bar and drop link as the minimal first step, with the sway bar set to soft in front and medium stiffness in rear. Then test drive and see. If you don't feel the change is enough then you know you are looking at next step, which is lowering spring or coilover etc. Critical to use a good shop with an experienced tech so he could test and advise you if necessary.
What suspension mod is in your car now?
If your car is completely stock I would vote for sway bar and drop link as the minimal first step, with the sway bar set to soft in front and medium stiffness in rear. Then test drive and see. If you don't feel the change is enough then you know you are looking at next step, which is lowering spring or coilover etc. Critical to use a good shop with an experienced tech so he could test and advise you if necessary.
What suspension mod is in your car now?
But the bouncy and the lateral sway is what I would like to tighten up. So I guess sways, drop links and the spring would be a good combination for a DD?
#743
100% bone stock. That said, I purchased eibach springs a while back. Just didn't have the confidence that changing the springs would achieve a better ride. So they are still in the box. I would do the springs just to close the fender gap though.
But the bouncy and the lateral sway is what I would like to tighten up. So I guess sways, drop links and the spring would be a good combination for a DD?
But the bouncy and the lateral sway is what I would like to tighten up. So I guess sways, drop links and the spring would be a good combination for a DD?
#744
Thanks. I did have the tpc DSC unit and it worked great. I sold it due to a high pitched electrical sound emitting from the unit. Tom at tpc swapped it out with a new box but same issue. Tried wrapping it with EMF fabric and grounding it to the car, didn't work. The benefit of the handling didn't out weight the annoying "eeeeeeee"
#745
100% bone stock. That said, I purchased eibach springs a while back. Just didn't have the confidence that changing the springs would achieve a better ride. So they are still in the box. I would do the springs just to close the fender gap though.
But the bouncy and the lateral sway is what I would like to tighten up. So I guess sways, drop links and the spring would be a good combination for a DD?
But the bouncy and the lateral sway is what I would like to tighten up. So I guess sways, drop links and the spring would be a good combination for a DD?
Also keep in mind these are changes you feel with sporty driving on curvy canyon roads & at the track, etc., not with city driving.
#746
Damtronics
Figured someone here might know, I'm having trouble locating B16 Damtronics for my 2007 997TT. Seems like a lot of places are advertising them but no longer carry them. Thanks for any suggestions!
#747
Try Tom @ TPC Racing.
#749
AWE is an extremely reputable tuner and has been around the Porsche forum a long time.
Last edited by cannga; 04-01-2017 at 09:30 AM.
#750
The mechanics and function of Techart Bilstein is obviously way beyond my knowledge/experience, so really the only thing I have to add is that for spring rates, I probably would vote to err on the conservative side at this point, such as 336 front/560 rear, same as the stock Bilstein rates. 650 rear may be too stiff still.
Stiffer suspensions are extremely fun on smooth curvy roads and the track, but once you have bumps and potholes, all bets are off.
Good luck and hope things will work out well for you. Update this thread once all is said and done.
Stiffer suspensions are extremely fun on smooth curvy roads and the track, but once you have bumps and potholes, all bets are off.
Good luck and hope things will work out well for you. Update this thread once all is said and done.
In the rears, removed the TechArt main spring and replaced with Swift Springs (Z70-203-100) (10 kgf/mm, 560 lbs/inch). Retained the Helper springs.
Replaced all top mounts with TARETT mounts. Then aligned the car. Front and back camber set to -1.5.
This set up has raised the car height to clear 95% of the speed bumps in and around town. I use the the "nose lift" function only and only for the "car-breaker" bumps.
Took it for a long ride of about 400 kms which included long straights and few twists. The ride is much more comfortable. but not at the cost of handling. Straight line high speed stability is very good (except a little floaty feeling beyond 200 kmph). long turns are also handled with great confidence. Did not have sharp turns and/or chicanes to push the car... BUT ALL IN ALL.. a true bulletproof supercar... have ordered the TARETT drop links.. will wait to install and then corner balance.. and post again after another long drive...till then, cheers.. and drive safe....