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Old 07-30-2008 | 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by heavychevy
This is Porsche we are talking about here. They arent going to put out junk. And if the motors proove durable, which I'd bet money they will (at some point) the current non DI engines will be obsolete, but if you mod, you'll just have to build more of the motor at high power levels.
I think it's more cost cutting than any thing else and an effort to bump the car another 20 Hp to edge out the Gtr before they hibernate.

I'm keeping mine until the 998 and see what that brings.
 
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Well, when you're on the back straight at the glen hitting 155, bouncing it off the rev limiter, you're damn glad you have the gt1. Can't say that about the new one until(if) it's ever proven(racing).
 
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Originally Posted by TT Gasman
The end of an era boys.
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I agree with heavychevy, I highly doubt Porsche isnt going to put out a motor that isnt great.
 
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Pure cost cutting with zero savings thrown back at the customer, I bet you that much! One of the reasons I went with a Turbo was the racing history behind the flat six that powers it.

This new block's claim to fame is being on youtube hooked up to a Nurburgring 'computer' doing the rounds. No thank you.
 
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I can definetly see Porshce doing this. The new engine will be reinforced to handle the power but why does Porsche need to build a motor that handles 700hp+ when it only needs 500hp. If Porsche can build this direct injection motor that easily handles the 500hp with better fuel economy then why wont they change the motor. Porsche has notoriously overbuilt everything which comes at a cost so if money can be saved with no reliability issues then why not change to this motor. Car companys do not build products for tuners; however, it just so happens that the current motor in the Porsches handles huge power increases without modifing internals and blocks. I doubt the future of cars is to consistently increase horsepower at the expense of gas miliage and I believe we are at the limit of peak horsepower for a production car because of insurance and safety concerns. Thus the current TT motor is not needed. Whether this helps the resale of the older Porsches I do not know because the buyer of the twin turbo is typically older and probably on average is not going to extremly modify the car. Just my take.
 
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Screw the direct injection...How about giving us the option of directly connecting our Ipods???
 
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Does this mean that the major difference between a turbo and a c4s will be the turbos only??
 
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Come on guys, time marches on. Europe is going to have some tough emissions standards coming up and this is the only way Porsche can meet it.
 
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Cleaner, yet dirtier. Nice!
 
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Since my knowledge is rather limited--I understand what the direct injection does but do not understand the need for a new engine on the tt where "there is not one part carried over to this new engine." I also understand emissions etc. But with the ease of getting A LOT of hp and torque increase from a simple flash and muffler change and the proven reliability of the current engine, it mystifies me as to what is going on. Perhaps someone will post the proposed engine differences and pros and cons--and write as if speaking to a mechanical idiot, which is what I am. Some one in the above posts said the new engine might leak oil??
 
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Old 07-31-2008 | 02:50 PM
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Porsche can't just do a flash and muffler change. They have to obey rules. The owner on the other hand....
 
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Originally Posted by gmoney
One of the reasons I went with a Turbo was the racing history behind the flat six that powers it.

This new block's claim to fame is being on youtube hooked up to a Nurburgring 'computer' doing the rounds. No thank you.
At the last ALMS race @ mid-ohio, the Penske RS Spyders ran their first race using a direct injection engine. Granted, it's a 3.4 litre V-8, but it is racing.

Also, the PDI engine is supposed to be 30% stronger then the GT1 engine.
 
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Originally Posted by noah677
Perhaps someone will post the proposed engine differences and pros and cons--and write as if speaking to a mechanical idiot, which is what I am.
Yeah same for me, I really don't know what the issues are with the new engine!
 


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