Thanks for the info.

I do find it rather interesting most of the people bashing the new A91 motor, currently own a 997tt.

 

I just ordered an 09 to get the M97, I like the appearance of the 2010 better, but the engine is worth it. I dissagree with someone who said that the M97 was favored by just current TT owners. I currently have a 2006 997 C4s, with an aerokit. I absolutely love the car and in the corners at Roebling, I can smoke the Z06's, but get to the straights, in this high speed track and they blow by me. Give me a Turbo with a flash and the Z06's are dust. I know this sounds immature, I turned 52 last saturday and I am not too old to enjoy as much HP and TQ as possible, the only thing is I wish the Turbo wasn't quite so heavy, but that is what the GT2 is for with an M97.

Tom

 

I really had not planned on buying a Turbo until 2010 but got nervous about the buzz regarding the end of the GT1 engine so I went aheade and ordered a 2209 for Jan. build. I don't know if I will ever modify it but it's nice to have the option.

 

The main question for me is that Porsche ASSERTS (which I'm not entirely confident in) that the new motor is better than the base carrera motor but if it is better than the already much better motors in the GT's and TT.

The same bulletproof bottom end has been used on Porsches for 40 years or so, and is a large part of a the reason Porsches have grown to be so reliable and track worthy. For all intents and purposes, the GT1 has as much to do with Porsches track reputation as anything else. Changing to a completely different untested motor is a big risk, and it may be years before we know if it prooves to help or not.

But it's likely not to be as mod friendly. And to many, being able to mod and still drive a car like stock gives extra insurance of driving stock because you know the tolerances are far greater than what is required.

It's all about the confidence.

 

Isn't the current motor the same one that has had RMS issues since day 1? There are GT owners that are on their fourth RMS, and others that have had their cars bought back under the lemon law for the RMS...and folks are rushing to buy into this before they lose the "opportunity"?

The last Porsche I owned, a '73 S, had RMS problems. I have recently decided to come back to the marque, and was stunned to find in my research that 35 years later, the RMS was still an issue.
The new direct injection motor finally addresses the problem. I think that Porsches assertion about the new motor being better, and stronger, are true. I just wonder what took so long.

 

RMS is not a problem, its a standard feature!

 

Yeah, I cannot believe they don't charge you for it!

 

I believe they have a deal worked out with Mobil with 10% of all 0W40 profits going to Porsche!

 

RMS, while mentioned often here, is a very small percentage of the overall number of cars made and IMO does not even begin to put a damper on the success of the GT1 history and reputation. It's great that Porsche will replace a motor for a couple of drop of oil on the floor, I got that from my new 745 and they said it was nothing.

Not to mention that Porsche is the #1 track group in all of America and likely all of the world (certainly in race car production). All using this same technology, cup cars, gt3's, GT2's TT's all running the same block.

I'd surely take a coupld drops of oil over fail engines (Z06), transmissions (GT-R), brake and oiling problems we see from other companies for a car I have trust in at the track. Who knows what bugs will need to be worked out in this new motor,and how long it could take.

 

exactly

 

I wonder how many current/prospective TT buyers know - furtherless care - that the car has a GT1 engine, have ever seen a GT1 in picture or person. Must be the kind of issues that were debated all of 10 minutes in product planning sessions in Zuffenhausen.

In hindsight, some of the harsh talk about Porsche moving to water cooled engines must sound a bit out of place, remembering the great cars that it has afforded us since. I think the same will be happen with this one.

 

So, all the FL 09 cars will get the DI? Yikes!!

 

Probably very few. Unless you are into modifying your engine, you probably wouldn't care. But for the rest of us, the question is...do I want an unproven "integrated" dry sump system with DI and 520-530 HP, with unknown limitations of modifications...or do I want the engine that came from a Le Mans championship race car, that has been flogged to over 750 HP regularly over this last decade?

Easy choice.

 

There is nothing permanent except change.
The only constant is change.
Change is the only constant.
Change alone is unchanging.
(Stolen from Wikiquote)

But it is something to accept and embrace. I embrace the changes. In several years when I'm ready to upgrade my sled for the next-best-thing, they'll have worked out the bugs ... and it will be better than what I just took delivery of 3 weeks ago.

 

993 turbos have kept their values better than the 996 or cars before. The 997 with the last of the dry sump engines may be similiar. At least thats my hope, picking mine up in Stuttgart in 6 weeks.