You know, the bottom line is, the new GTR is going to have to prove itself in sanctioned racing events before it can make any claim to the throne. We can argue til we are blue in the face, and refer back to road test articles, non professional track events, random 'ring runs, etc., but under these conditions either side can claim different conditions, varying driver skill level, etc.,etc., effected the outcome. The GTR has a long way to go before it can establish itself within any pecking order. As long as Porsche is first and formost a sports car company with the resources of VW, it is going to be hard to knock them down.

 

It isn't a racing car.

 

they are sure pushing it like one and the cost of tranny's and brakes is on par with racing costs.... How many spare tranny's do you buy with a GTR? 3-4 just to be safe. Maybe Mizuno had it right, maybe all GTR's should cost about $130k and come with another spare tranny ready to pop in.

 

Funny how you talk about racing until we talk about racing and then you say - it's not a race car.

Porsche GT3/RS, Turbo's are not race cars - they are street cars.

Lets take a stock for stock and run it around the track for a weekend. Lets see which one will drive off, get some groceries and park back in the garage without any problems or $1000 fluid changes.

 

Apparently DR or DriversRepublic.com has recently conducted a test between the 997 GT2 and the GTR. Can't wait to see the outcome on this. Both cars where tested in The Ring and the GTR was from a private customer and the GT2 was Porsche's press car.

 

You guys find me a GTR that has been tracked and NOT used LC that has it's tranny blown. None. Zero. Zilch.
Now find me a Porsche PDK that hasn't been tracked and with a broken tranny. I can think of 1, and it's on this forum....
Result: Porsche needs to do more R&D with their PDK.

 

Drive the GTR first. Then you can talk.

 

Yep, i've driven one and i reckon that it would be well worth the $130k. A better car overall than the 997 turbo.
I suggest you drive one first, then come back and tell us your opinion. That way, you'll sound more credible.

 

Edmunds didn't have a problem with their tranny not yet at least. It was a leaky seal on the transaxle. Scroll down their blog to see

http://blogs.edmunds.com/roadtests/Vehicles/2009-nissan-gtr/

With regard to racing pedigree, doesn't Porsche only race their GT3s and their prototypes. Why does everone think they race the 911 turbo which the GTR is measured against. Call me a troll but how are ever going to reach the 200 page mark without us? You need us on this forum to keep the hours in the office go by quicker. Oh, the GTR is Automobile Mag car of the Year and Evo Mag Car of the year.

 

^ +1
How boring would this thread be if its just HC, Alpine, prch951, usccayman contributing?

 

I haven't mentioned racing because it is entirely irrelevant when discussing a road car.

 

Both very nice cars, ill take the P!

 

Find me a GTR that is being driven to its marketed and hyped potential that has not had transmission issues, fluid temp issues, rapid tire wear, exorbitant maintenance costs.

 

Do you believe everything written by someone with an agenda on the internet?

 

From Edmunds. http://blogs.edmunds.com/roadtests/V...09-nissan-gtr/
2009 Nissan GT-R: Is the GT-R's Transmission Really a Problem?




There's a considerable amount of internet chatter going on these days regarding the GT-R's durability. We've had our fair share of problems, but none of the issues have left us stranded - and that includes the transaxle that was replaced. It had a leaky seal that Nissan wanted to inspect more closely, but it never refused to work right.

That's noteworthy as most of the chat room bickering involves the transmission. We don't doubt other owners have had problems, but our experience has been considerably different.

For one, we bought the car at a dealership like everybody else and we never had to sign a waiver that said the warranty would be voided if we used the launch control system. If anybody else has, we would love to see it.

Since that time, we've track tested our GT-R twice, used launch control numerous times and ran it hard on the Streets of Willow road course during our GT-R versus ZR1 comparison test. The VDC was off and nothing broke. And this was on a car with over 11,000 miles on it, 5,000 of those miles since the new transaxle was installed. Drove it home last night and the car felt fine.

Again, we're not saying the GT-R doesn't have its problems, but when someone says they barely ever used launch control and suddenly their transmission imploded, you wonder if there's more to the story. We would be glad to hear them if people really want to vent, but for now we'll just keep driving our GT-R as hard as ever - "delicate" transmission and all.