997 TT beats GT-R at Ring. Nissan accused of cheating.
#1831
11-19-2008, 07:19 AM
And certainly havent done as much trolling as you have.
I havent joined site after site to promote or bash any car, can you say the same? You call yourself a Porsche enthusiast and join a Porsche site and have not one post outside of a GT-R thread. On top of that not even one remotely suggestive post of being a Porsche fan.
The car forums I post on, I've followed and been a member of, and at some point owned a car from the make, or at least followed prior to anything concerning the GT-R (other than nagtroc) can you say the same?
How many sites in which you are a newbie member and havent posted about anything but the GT-R? Dont even try to compare you and I.
I'm an enthusiast. YOU, are a troll
I havent joined site after site to promote or bash any car, can you say the same? You call yourself a Porsche enthusiast and join a Porsche site and have not one post outside of a GT-R thread. On top of that not even one remotely suggestive post of being a Porsche fan.
The car forums I post on, I've followed and been a member of, and at some point owned a car from the make, or at least followed prior to anything concerning the GT-R (other than nagtroc) can you say the same?
How many sites in which you are a newbie member and havent posted about anything but the GT-R? Dont even try to compare you and I.
I'm an enthusiast. YOU, are a troll
I have no interest in promoting, or talking down, any car, but I would rather see facts than conjecture and fabrication.
#1832
11-19-2008, 07:21 AM
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Depends on which type of turbo you're talking about. Again a Porsche enthusiast would know this. The 6 speed is just over 3500lbs while the GT3 is over 3200 lbs with the GT-R being over 3800 lbs. It's about equal and no just an extra passenger wont get it done.
#1833
11-19-2008, 07:25 AM
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Rep Power: 551 BTW you havent proven anything as conjecture here. Just mouthing and defending like the typical fanboy troll.
#1834
11-19-2008, 07:33 AM
To the best of my knowledge I have never posted a message on Rennteam - I'm not aware that I have even registered there.
I couldn't care less who likes a particular car, but if you don't like one at least try to provide facts or first-hand experience and observations to justify your attempt at argument.
I couldn't care less who likes a particular car, but if you don't like one at least try to provide facts or first-hand experience and observations to justify your attempt at argument.
#1835
11-19-2008, 08:19 AM
You are still lost!! Build quality has nothing to do with DSG! Boy are you really dense. Even more so than from my previous post. You can't see logic you don't know the definition.
BMW = DCT = DSG = PDK
NISSAN = DSG = DCT = PDK
VW = DSG = DCT = PDK
Porsche = PDK = DSG = DCT
So what is your point about standard build quality again?
Leather clad? Where do you get your vocabulary from? You can't polish a TURD as I mentioned before. So don't try all you will get is a handful of "****e".
So tell me MR. Wanna Be Enstein you are impressed with gadgets that tells you the oil temps, etc.etc on a screen as compared to an ANALOG gauge that has worked in most race cars for years? So your precious PS3 goes out what will you do? Guess? TOO FUNNY!
Go home as in leave and find another place to troll.
Boy are you weak in your come backs...
BMW = DCT = DSG = PDK
NISSAN = DSG = DCT = PDK
VW = DSG = DCT = PDK
Porsche = PDK = DSG = DCT
So what is your point about standard build quality again?
Leather clad? Where do you get your vocabulary from? You can't polish a TURD as I mentioned before. So don't try all you will get is a handful of "****e".
So tell me MR. Wanna Be Enstein you are impressed with gadgets that tells you the oil temps, etc.etc on a screen as compared to an ANALOG gauge that has worked in most race cars for years? So your precious PS3 goes out what will you do? Guess? TOO FUNNY!
Go home as in leave and find another place to troll.
Boy are you weak in your come backs...
You see Formula 1 cars with analogue gauges? So you're going to tell me that Formula 1 cars are from PS3?...your logic is pathetic. Don't try and argue when you know you cannot win.
#1836
11-19-2008, 08:38 AM
ok, lets seriously do an apples to apples comparison of two cars...The GTR and the BMW M5/6. The BMW has 500 hp and weighs about the same as the GTR, and aerodynamically cannot be much different. What is the BMW's time around the ring.....? The GTR will not be much of an improvement.
Firstly, it's an awesome car and with an aftermarket exhaust, that V10 sings like a Ferrari. I love it!
M5 is a very very fast car in a straight line, especially at high speed. In certain speed ranges, it can pull on a stock 997TT (although for sure slower overall).
I have the Dinan suspension kit on the M5 (just new springs and sways, nothing too dramatic).
Despite being just 100lbs or so heavier than the GT-R, it feels very heavy on track and pushes like crazy. I think I am at least 5 secs faster around the track in GT-R versus the M5.
I think it's a combo of more TQ in the GT-R, AWD, lower CG and better mechanical grip from suspension geometry and VDC/Diffs.
#1837
11-19-2008, 09:00 AM
Yeah, Porsche's PDK build quality is better than Nissan's DSG - that's why you see a 911 owner with a broken PDK just 3 weeks since he's got it. And the guy doesn't track it or has even launch it....
You see Formula 1 cars with analogue gauges? So you're going to tell me that Formula 1 cars are from PS3?...your logic is pathetic. Don't try and argue when you know you cannot win.
You see Formula 1 cars with analogue gauges? So you're going to tell me that Formula 1 cars are from PS3?...your logic is pathetic. Don't try and argue when you know you cannot win.
PDK broken? A single post and no pictures. I have asked for proof and guess what no proof. We have proof of the GTR's bring me the proof - NOT POST of the problem. Even if I gave the owner of that PDK the benefit of the problem was it denied warranty?
Now you are the all knowing of what really happened to the PDK car? You know he didn't launch for fact? You know it really happened for fact? I could log on to many boards and post problems with my GTR tranny to smear it couldn't I?
Get a life you troll..
#1838
11-19-2008, 09:39 AM
10 sec GTR on 22"s. WTF was the owner thinking!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4Tfjz0U3C4
Supposedly just bolt on mods and everything else completely stock.
Supposedly just bolt on mods and everything else completely stock.
#1839
11-19-2008, 10:47 AM
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Rep Power: 551 Yeah, Porsche's PDK build quality is better than Nissan's DSG - that's why you see a 911 owner with a broken PDK just 3 weeks since he's got it. And the guy doesn't track it or has even launch it....
You see Formula 1 cars with analogue gauges? So you're going to tell me that Formula 1 cars are from PS3?...your logic is pathetic. Don't try and argue when you know you cannot win.
You see Formula 1 cars with analogue gauges? So you're going to tell me that Formula 1 cars are from PS3?...your logic is pathetic. Don't try and argue when you know you cannot win.
LOL, funny that the last reincarnation of Z07 made the EXACT same arguement. And he always picks the dumbest names he can think of.
But in case you are NOT him.
The GT-R has a whole country (thousands in Japan) worth or recalls
PLUS
Several documented failed GT-R's being denied by warranty with lawsuits in the US
PLUS
Some grey market cars they fixed to keep the problem quiet before US release.
Sow how exactly are you comparing this ONE Porsche with a problem to all those GT-R's? I would say YES that does make Porsche build quality better because you wont find any not being covered under warranty.
#1840
11-19-2008, 09:16 PM
#1842
11-19-2008, 09:56 PM
Oh wait now the GTR fanboys will say they have an exclusive and its worth more!
That will be classic because having it still doesn't mean you can use it. Also go ahead and pay 10-15K for the new gears. But if they break due to feeling safe then you will have another problem again. How many people can actually work on the tranny? It is not like you can take it to AAMCO.
That will be classic because having it still doesn't mean you can use it. Also go ahead and pay 10-15K for the new gears. But if they break due to feeling safe then you will have another problem again. How many people can actually work on the tranny? It is not like you can take it to AAMCO.
#1843
11-20-2008, 06:29 AM
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Rep Power: 551 Funny how Edmunds continues to carry a blind eye to the GT-R. The one they had for the long term test was in the shopw 4 different times for a combined total of over a month and they still tried to bash guys who've had problems with their cars. Go read it for yourself, it stayed in the shop with various problems until they had to take the tranny out and replace it because they couldnt fix it.
And now this, they spin it as if every GT-R that has broken has been abused.
-Never once mentioning that your warranty is void for using it.
-Never once reiterating the fact that they didnt have to pay for their second tranny.
This is a joke. Nissan pwns edmunds.
#1844
11-20-2008, 06:44 AM
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I guess this either proves that Nissan has lost one of these lawsuits, or is going to lose.
Or that there are more cases than you can shake a stick at, though Kahn has told us that already, so maybe both.
So much for ONE tranny being broken.
Or that there are more cases than you can shake a stick at, though Kahn has told us that already, so maybe both.
So much for ONE tranny being broken.
#1845
11-20-2008, 07:38 AM
What a loser you are...its truely sad. Now you are bringing in F1's. I guess you have no other knowledge to spread huh? What a troll.
PDK broken? A single post and no pictures. I have asked for proof and guess what no proof. We have proof of the GTR's bring me the proof - NOT POST of the problem. Even if I gave the owner of that PDK the benefit of the problem was it denied warranty?
Now you are the all knowing of what really happened to the PDK car? You know he didn't launch for fact? You know it really happened for fact? I could log on to many boards and post problems with my GTR tranny to smear it couldn't I?
Get a life you troll..
PDK broken? A single post and no pictures. I have asked for proof and guess what no proof. We have proof of the GTR's bring me the proof - NOT POST of the problem. Even if I gave the owner of that PDK the benefit of the problem was it denied warranty?
Now you are the all knowing of what really happened to the PDK car? You know he didn't launch for fact? You know it really happened for fact? I could log on to many boards and post problems with my GTR tranny to smear it couldn't I?
Get a life you troll..