997 TT beats GT-R at Ring. Nissan accused of cheating.
#2131
12-06-2008, 08:50 AM
Oh and the truth about the ring
http://magazines.drivers-republic.co...c/thetruth030/
how does an all wheel drive car that is supposedly teh fastist car in di worl go 7 seconds slower than a rear wheel drive car at the rin on a damp track where the AWD should have had the advantage. Oh yah, it's called NISSAN LIES
http://magazines.drivers-republic.co...c/thetruth030/
how does an all wheel drive car that is supposedly teh fastist car in di worl go 7 seconds slower than a rear wheel drive car at the rin on a damp track where the AWD should have had the advantage. Oh yah, it's called NISSAN LIES
#2132
12-06-2008, 08:52 AM
I have not heard of any flat tires either. oh and again out of maybe 1100 cars in the US only 20% max probably driven hard, so 30+ problems in 200 cars is bad.
#2133
12-06-2008, 09:08 AM
[quote=Quacker;2162585]Evo car of the year. Enjoy..............
http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/index....908[/quote]
Enjoy...
1999 - Porsche GT3(996) MK1
2000 - Porsche 911 Turbo(996)
2003 - Porsche GT3
2004 - Porsche 911(997) C2S
2007 - Porsche GT3/RS(997)
In 2007 The Honda Civic Type R beat out the Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera for 6th place. Hmmmm
http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/index....908[/quote]
Enjoy...
1999 - Porsche GT3(996) MK1
2000 - Porsche 911 Turbo(996)
2003 - Porsche GT3
2004 - Porsche 911(997) C2S
2007 - Porsche GT3/RS(997)
In 2007 The Honda Civic Type R beat out the Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera for 6th place. Hmmmm
#2134
12-06-2008, 09:14 AM
[quote=ALPINE_997;2162736]
well, I don't know about you, but I would take a Honda Civic type R any day over a Gallardo
Evo car of the year. Enjoy..............
http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=26908[/quote]
Enjoy...
1999 - Porsche GT3(996) MK1
2000 - Porsche 911 Turbo(996)
2003 - Porsche GT3
2004 - Porsche 911(997) C2S
2007 - Porsche GT3/RS(997)
In 2007 The Honda Civic Type R beat out the Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera for 6th place. Hmmmm
http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=26908[/quote]
Enjoy...
1999 - Porsche GT3(996) MK1
2000 - Porsche 911 Turbo(996)
2003 - Porsche GT3
2004 - Porsche 911(997) C2S
2007 - Porsche GT3/RS(997)
In 2007 The Honda Civic Type R beat out the Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera for 6th place. Hmmmm
well, I don't know about you, but I would take a Honda Civic type R any day over a Gallardo
#2135
12-06-2008, 09:59 AM
[quote=ALPINE_997;2162736]
Just shows that the guys over at Evo magazine aint bias towards the GTR as you guys believe eh? In fact, they love Porsches. Too bad the GT2 didn't win this year though. 
Just a quick question, has there been any independent tests of the GT2 by journals that has gotten anywhere close to the 7:32 claim by Porsche at the 'Ring'? Or the 7:42 claim by Porsche for the turbo?
Evo car of the year. Enjoy..............
http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=26908[/quote]
Enjoy...
1999 - Porsche GT3(996) MK1
2000 - Porsche 911 Turbo(996)
2003 - Porsche GT3
2004 - Porsche 911(997) C2S
2007 - Porsche GT3/RS(997)
In 2007 The Honda Civic Type R beat out the Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera for 6th place. Hmmmm
http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=26908[/quote]
Enjoy...
1999 - Porsche GT3(996) MK1
2000 - Porsche 911 Turbo(996)
2003 - Porsche GT3
2004 - Porsche 911(997) C2S
2007 - Porsche GT3/RS(997)
In 2007 The Honda Civic Type R beat out the Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera for 6th place. Hmmmm
Just a quick question, has there been any independent tests of the GT2 by journals that has gotten anywhere close to the 7:32 claim by Porsche at the 'Ring'? Or the 7:42 claim by Porsche for the turbo?
#2136
12-06-2008, 10:14 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHX4qziAsw0
HS GT570 Kit - Boost set to 17psi
Amuse STTI Exhaust (Catback)
Harman Motive Air Intake System
Custom Methanol Injection
Custom Cobb Map (Thanks John!)
18" Volk TE37s w/Mickey Thompson drag radials
Fuel: Mix of 93 and 109. I added a few gallons of 109 to just under a 1/3 tank of 93.
* Side Note: This car has a chromoly rollcage that probably adds 80-90lbs to the car's weight.
HS GT570 Kit - Boost set to 17psi
Amuse STTI Exhaust (Catback)
Harman Motive Air Intake System
Custom Methanol Injection
Custom Cobb Map (Thanks John!)
18" Volk TE37s w/Mickey Thompson drag radials
Fuel: Mix of 93 and 109. I added a few gallons of 109 to just under a 1/3 tank of 93.
* Side Note: This car has a chromoly rollcage that probably adds 80-90lbs to the car's weight.
#2138
12-06-2008, 10:24 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHX4qziAsw0
HS GT570 Kit - Boost set to 17psi
Amuse STTI Exhaust (Catback)
Harman Motive Air Intake System
Custom Methanol Injection
Custom Cobb Map (Thanks John!)
18" Volk TE37s w/Mickey Thompson drag radials
Fuel: Mix of 93 and 109. I added a few gallons of 109 to just under a 1/3 tank of 93.
* Side Note: This car has a chromoly rollcage that probably adds 80-90lbs to the car's weight.
HS GT570 Kit - Boost set to 17psi
Amuse STTI Exhaust (Catback)
Harman Motive Air Intake System
Custom Methanol Injection
Custom Cobb Map (Thanks John!)
18" Volk TE37s w/Mickey Thompson drag radials
Fuel: Mix of 93 and 109. I added a few gallons of 109 to just under a 1/3 tank of 93.
* Side Note: This car has a chromoly rollcage that probably adds 80-90lbs to the car's weight.
#2141
12-06-2008, 12:14 PM
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[quote=Quacker;2162797]
Just shows that the guys over at Evo magazine aint bias towards the GTR as you guys believe eh? In fact, they love Porsches. Too bad the GT2 didn't win this year though.
Just a quick question, has there been any independent tests of the GT2 by journals that has gotten anywhere close to the 7:32 claim by Porsche at the 'Ring'? Or the 7:42 claim by Porsche for the turbo?
What does making it the car of the year have anything to do with bias? I'd like to the logis on that one.
Oh yeah and pwned by sport auto.
Just shows that the guys over at Evo magazine aint bias towards the GTR as you guys believe eh? In fact, they love Porsches. Too bad the GT2 didn't win this year though.
Just a quick question, has there been any independent tests of the GT2 by journals that has gotten anywhere close to the 7:32 claim by Porsche at the 'Ring'? Or the 7:42 claim by Porsche for the turbo?
Oh yeah and pwned by sport auto.
#2142
12-06-2008, 12:27 PM
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[quote=ALPINE_997;2162736]
ALPINE 997 With the own@g3.
Do you not answer PM's anymore???
Evo car of the year. Enjoy..............
http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=26908[/quote]
Enjoy...
1999 - Porsche GT3(996) MK1
2000 - Porsche 911 Turbo(996)
2003 - Porsche GT3
2004 - Porsche 911(997) C2S
2007 - Porsche GT3/RS(997)
In 2007 The Honda Civic Type R beat out the Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera for 6th place. Hmmmm
http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=26908[/quote]
Enjoy...
1999 - Porsche GT3(996) MK1
2000 - Porsche 911 Turbo(996)
2003 - Porsche GT3
2004 - Porsche 911(997) C2S
2007 - Porsche GT3/RS(997)
In 2007 The Honda Civic Type R beat out the Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera for 6th place. Hmmmm
Do you not answer PM's anymore???
#2144
12-06-2008, 12:57 PM
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Posts: 8,934
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[quote=Galactus;2162906]
So Evo has been giving out Car of the Year awards to Porsche's, but the GT-R beats the baddest Porsche on sale for their Car of the Year crown. Pretty impressive. But again this is still just a magazine award, like the Automobile and Motor Trend Car of the Year trophies the GT-R has now collected. But Evo is a damn good magazine, and the level of competition was pretty spectacular for this test: Gallardo LP-560, Porsche GT2, Aston Martin V8 Vantage, and Alfa Romeo 8C
Another GT-R owner has gone 10.8@128mph+ using the fragile tranny and LC...
Wow that tranny sure is a pile of crap. The haters have been saying it is only rated to 550 pound feet of torque and will explode if you exceed that number. That GT-R is making 600 pound feet to the wheels, using the LC on a sticky drag strip. Perhaps if you do 50 launches on it within the first 3 weeks of ownership, before anything is even broken in, you will blow it up? Running 600 pound feet and 600+ horsepower at a drag strip while using LC would surely blow it up if there is a design flaw with the gearbox. I am sure the clutches in that gearbox are not enjoying the additional 120+ horsepower and 170 pound feet of torque, but so far so good. I guess when these cars are running as fast as a Veyron with under $8000 worth of mods next year people on this board may give the car some respect.....NOT!
Fastest production car ever!:
$1.5M Bugatti Veyron
(Road and track)
0-60mph 2.6
0-100mph 5.5
10.2@142.9mph 1/4 mile
$75,000 GT-R ($8K+ modified)
0-60mph 2.39
0-100mph 6.2
10.8@129mph 1/4 mile
This car really is as Autocar's Chris Harris says, a Baby Veyron.
So the GT-R's are already running 10.8 1/4's with 129-133mph traps with the stock exhaust still in place. If these tranny's are not made of glass, then this car will be running 9 second passes next year with some of the turbo kits in development. But then again it is still an ugly Nissan POS right everyone?
That GT-R had bigger turbos and everything but a new exhaust. And even the stock exhaust is modded. And he only ran one run with launch control and his motto was:
"if it breaks it breaks, we were going to have to replace it anyways"
You're going to have to do better with that.
As evident in the COTY, the civic beating out the lambo shows that car of the year isnt about who fastest or anything, it's basically a subjective opinion which amounts to them putting on there the most logical choice which will sell magazines. And the GT-R is the leader of front cover magazines sold.
I think the GT-R deserves COTY. Nissan put 5 years and everything they have into it, it's new, it's a contender, it's affordable, it's new technology and daily driveability all in one. As opposed to everything else which is revisions of things we've seen before. Several mags have called the GT-R COTY, and I have no objection to it, they will sell lots of magazine.
COTY is great recognition for Nissans level of commitment to the car.......
TOO BAD COTY WONT MAKE BACK ANY OF THAT MONEY THEY ARE LOSING!!!!!!!
Porsche made profits on all of it's COTY's
So Evo has been giving out Car of the Year awards to Porsche's, but the GT-R beats the baddest Porsche on sale for their Car of the Year crown. Pretty impressive. But again this is still just a magazine award, like the Automobile and Motor Trend Car of the Year trophies the GT-R has now collected. But Evo is a damn good magazine, and the level of competition was pretty spectacular for this test: Gallardo LP-560, Porsche GT2, Aston Martin V8 Vantage, and Alfa Romeo 8C
Another GT-R owner has gone 10.8@128mph+ using the fragile tranny and LC...
Wow that tranny sure is a pile of crap. The haters have been saying it is only rated to 550 pound feet of torque and will explode if you exceed that number. That GT-R is making 600 pound feet to the wheels, using the LC on a sticky drag strip. Perhaps if you do 50 launches on it within the first 3 weeks of ownership, before anything is even broken in, you will blow it up? Running 600 pound feet and 600+ horsepower at a drag strip while using LC would surely blow it up if there is a design flaw with the gearbox. I am sure the clutches in that gearbox are not enjoying the additional 120+ horsepower and 170 pound feet of torque, but so far so good. I guess when these cars are running as fast as a Veyron with under $8000 worth of mods next year people on this board may give the car some respect.....NOT! Fastest production car ever!:
$1.5M Bugatti Veyron
(Road and track)
0-60mph 2.6
0-100mph 5.5
10.2@142.9mph 1/4 mile
$75,000 GT-R ($8K+ modified)
0-60mph 2.39
0-100mph 6.2
10.8@129mph 1/4 mile
This car really is as Autocar's Chris Harris says, a Baby Veyron.
So the GT-R's are already running 10.8 1/4's with 129-133mph traps with the stock exhaust still in place. If these tranny's are not made of glass, then this car will be running 9 second passes next year with some of the turbo kits in development. But then again it is still an ugly Nissan POS right everyone?
"if it breaks it breaks, we were going to have to replace it anyways"
You're going to have to do better with that.
As evident in the COTY, the civic beating out the lambo shows that car of the year isnt about who fastest or anything, it's basically a subjective opinion which amounts to them putting on there the most logical choice which will sell magazines. And the GT-R is the leader of front cover magazines sold.
I think the GT-R deserves COTY. Nissan put 5 years and everything they have into it, it's new, it's a contender, it's affordable, it's new technology and daily driveability all in one. As opposed to everything else which is revisions of things we've seen before. Several mags have called the GT-R COTY, and I have no objection to it, they will sell lots of magazine.
COTY is great recognition for Nissans level of commitment to the car.......
TOO BAD COTY WONT MAKE BACK ANY OF THAT MONEY THEY ARE LOSING!!!!!!!
Porsche made profits on all of it's COTY's