997 TT beats GT-R at Ring. Nissan accused of cheating.
#2386
12-17-2008, 09:34 PM
^ Sorry to call you 'friend', did i touch a nerve?...I don't think you understand the difference between 'tracking' and 'racing'. Do you need me to explain that to you? Perhaps another member on here will do the honour, i don't have time to waste. Maybe you should save everyone's time and read Nissan's warranty statement again...... or even a few times.
Put it this way, why does the JDM GTR's disable their 180km/h speed limiter once the GPS identifies that the GTR is on a race track? Why would Nissan implement feature if they don't want you to 'track' the GTR at all?
If i were you, i would save myself the embarrassment and just accept that GM's warranty rule regarding track use is a joke.
Put it this way, why does the JDM GTR's disable their 180km/h speed limiter once the GPS identifies that the GTR is on a race track? Why would Nissan implement feature if they don't want you to 'track' the GTR at all?
If i were you, i would save myself the embarrassment and just accept that GM's warranty rule regarding track use is a joke.
#2387
12-17-2008, 09:38 PM
from the same corvette forum.........................
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#2388
12-17-2008, 09:59 PM
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I'm wondering how many names Z07 is posting under in here, anyone wanna take a stab at it?
#2389
12-17-2008, 10:44 PM
Accident, theft, fire, driving through water (including engine water ingestion) or misuse, which includes, but is not limited to, operation in violation of any applicable law and racing of any sort whatsoever (Proper use is outlined in your owner’s manual).
#2390
12-17-2008, 11:05 PM
#2392
12-18-2008, 02:00 AM
I tried to skim this entire thread in about an hour but just saw a bunch of arguing instead of any real debate. I'm actually impressed that the Porsche guys are getting so worked up over the GT-R's competition.
Was the fact that the GT-R is ridiculously cheaper ever brought up?
As Jeremy Clarkson said, Nissan just built a new yardstick.
Was the fact that the GT-R is ridiculously cheaper ever brought up?
As Jeremy Clarkson said, Nissan just built a new yardstick.
#2393
12-18-2008, 03:20 AM
#2394
12-18-2008, 09:47 AM
Tracking a 3100lb C6Z isn't questionable, neither is it's reliability, and has been done for years. It will make you a better driver.
What IS questionable is choosing a 3900lb car with a complex and somewhat fragile transmission with every driver aid imaginable for track days. It will make you a worse driver.
What IS questionable is choosing a 3900lb car with a complex and somewhat fragile transmission with every driver aid imaginable for track days. It will make you a worse driver.
#2395
12-18-2008, 10:05 AM
I tried to skim this entire thread in about an hour but just saw a bunch of arguing instead of any real debate. I'm actually impressed that the Porsche guys are getting so worked up over the GT-R's competition.
Was the fact that the GT-R is ridiculously cheaper ever brought up?
As Jeremy Clarkson said, Nissan just built a new yardstick.
Was the fact that the GT-R is ridiculously cheaper ever brought up?
As Jeremy Clarkson said, Nissan just built a new yardstick.
#2396
12-18-2008, 10:12 AM
I tried to skim this entire thread in about an hour but just saw a bunch of arguing instead of any real debate. I'm actually impressed that the Porsche guys are getting so worked up over the GT-R's competition.
Was the fact that the GT-R is ridiculously cheaper ever brought up?
As Jeremy Clarkson said, Nissan just built a new yardstick.
Was the fact that the GT-R is ridiculously cheaper ever brought up?
As Jeremy Clarkson said, Nissan just built a new yardstick.
#2397
12-18-2008, 10:19 AM
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: ga
Posts: 8,934
Rep Power: 551 Tracking a 3100lb C6Z isn't questionable, neither is it's reliability, and has been done for years. It will make you a better driver.
What IS questionable is choosing a 3900lb car with a complex and somewhat fragile transmission with every driver aid imaginable for track days. It will make you a worse driver.
What IS questionable is choosing a 3900lb car with a complex and somewhat fragile transmission with every driver aid imaginable for track days. It will make you a worse driver.
A Z06's reliability isnt questionable on the track? I cant agree with that one. If it wasnt, I'd have one.
#2398
12-18-2008, 12:22 PM
Having put 50,000 plus miles on an 01 Z06~ 53000 miles on an 04 Z06
and I now have ~ 25000 miles on an 07 Z06...
averaging ~ 28 track days/year...
I think I can address the so called reliability issues.
Keep the Z06's " STOCK " & well maintained... no engine/powertrain mods and you'll find it has
OUTSTANDING RELIABILITY !!!
You do need to address the brakes, alignment & corner balance, then you are good to go.
Start modding the engine/changing out the rear end for a lower ratio, speed shifting, raise the rev limiter, lean out the AFR for a higher dyno reading, and you are damanging/abusing the powertrain.
The more mod's you do... the sooner you can expect problems.
#2399
12-18-2008, 12:57 PM
Two of those earlier links were cars on the street. I definitely wouldn't say the GT-R is the better choice. That weight for repeated track days that will wear out the tires and brakes 2x vs. the Z-06 and then the tranny issues. I would also hope wheel bearings and brushings are up to the repeated task as well.
#2400
12-18-2008, 01:18 PM
This might or might not have been posted, either way it's very interesting. Check out the last video on the page.
http://www.egmcartech.com/2008/12/01...e-nurburgring/
http://www.egmcartech.com/2008/12/01...e-nurburgring/