997 TT beats GT-R at Ring. Nissan accused of cheating.
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#872
I think Porsche should invite Nissan driver and let him drive their stock GTR and see if he can even come close to those times...
#873
wow... sick
#874
I could be wrong, but I think this thread is slowing down, and I think it is doing so because those who defend the GTR are finding less and less to defend. And, those of us who called "foul" in reaction to the hype don't need to say much anymore because the GTR is self-destructing right in front of the car enthusiast world.
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#877
Site sponsor VividRacing just dynoed a GTR in a Mustangdyno, 435whp:
#878
Maybe this is the reason why these cars are breaking....they have about 60 hp more than advertised, which is probably V-spec level, and they are not beefed up enough to take it, hence blown trannies. Makes perfect sense.
#879
As an FYI, our topic on the CaymanClub.Net site does NOT say that the Cayman pwned the GTR, if you are going to read the topic, PLEASE read it in its entirety. There is a member here trying to stir up $*)(@#$ and there is no need for that. Here is the topic:
http://www.caymanclub.net/cayman-cha...yline-gtr.html
FWIW the owner of said GTR said that their dyno test showed 460hp at the wheels.
http://www.caymanclub.net/cayman-cha...yline-gtr.html
FWIW the owner of said GTR said that their dyno test showed 460hp at the wheels.
#880
Hmm...Somehow I doubt that a difference of only 60 HP is going to make or break a transmission...but hey, who knows what kind of parameters they set forth in designing the double clutch.
#881
There is no chance whatsoever the cars have that much hp. Even on a mustang, that's only 508 crank with Nissan's loss numbers.
The launches and poor built quality are killing the trannie's, not the hp.
What's funny is how all these GT-R's are supposed to be making all this power yet the fastest trap speed we've seen is 124 mph. I would think that with the 600+ hp people are claiming we'd see something faster.
#882
What ever the real HP is, it's pretty obvious that they are massively under-rating. In regards to the tranny, there's no excuse for it to be braking so easily. Especially coming from a Nissan.
#883
There is no chance whatsoever the cars have that much hp. Even on a mustang, that's only 508 crank with Nissan's loss numbers.
The launches and poor built quality are killing the trannie's, not the hp.
What's funny is how all these GT-R's are supposed to be making all this power yet the fastest trap speed we've seen is 124 mph. I would think that with the 600+ hp people are claiming we'd see something faster.
The launches and poor built quality are killing the trannie's, not the hp.
What's funny is how all these GT-R's are supposed to be making all this power yet the fastest trap speed we've seen is 124 mph. I would think that with the 600+ hp people are claiming we'd see something faster.
#884
It's not like Nissan has been the leader of initial quality or dependability surveys...in fact, they are usually pretty average.
I think what we're seeing is what most people expected.
#885
That's true, but it's not like Nissan is the worst in quality either with the exception of the GTR. They're usually in the top 5 with Consumers Report. My cousin has an Altima with over 200k with no problems at all, of course that doesn't prove anything.