997 TT beats GT-R at Ring. Nissan accused of cheating.
#916
Just for comparison, a CLK Black series usually does around 12.6 and 116mph in the 1/4 mile with 507hp. And it's pretty close to the GTR's weight at 3875. The M6 is pretty close as well at around 12.8 and 115mph and it is also close to the GTR's weight at around 3800bls. Now the GTR might not be trapping that much higher but it seems to be much quicker. The slowest i've read and seen is 12.0, the quickest is 11.3 which is suspect. Dragtimes has it at 11.8 at 118mph. Does it make sense that if it is making 540hp that it'll be quicker but have a close trap speed than the M6 and CLK-BS?
as I have said, the only one I have seen in person did a best of 12.4x at 118. The remaining times were 12.6x and 12.8x. I have seen videos at tracks of these cars running 12's. I have heard of 11's, but have not seen it.
#917
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/R...ile_186961.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2ZasgLw17Y
This one might be modded, 11.27 is a bit suspect.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqK77GkjQeM
Last edited by jaeS4; 10-18-2008 at 07:24 PM.
#918
Just for comparison, a CLK Black series usually does around 12.6 and 116mph in the 1/4 mile with 507hp.
The chipped ones are running high 11's at 119.3
I just broke mine in and havent been to a drag strip.
#919
Again, not according to VividRacing and many others that have dynoed the GTR, they all say it is under-rated, and by their estimates, it's about 540hp or more. Yes i have seen the M6 with a higher trapspeed, i just used that one as an example from InsideLine. I believe C&D trapped the M6 at 120mph before.
Well you can call it huge power with lots of drivetrain loss and I can call it lower power and low drivetrain loss.
The only thing for sure is that it's no blazer in a straigt line, and this hp is not an excuse for the ring acceleration or a reason for it's lap times.
Since that is where this all started you cant use both, it cant be heavily underrated as an explanation for lap times and sqaunder all of the power with drivetrain losses.
The car get's molested by most of the fast cars (Viper, Z06, TT, etc.). So weight/hp or in this case ACCELERATION is not it's strong point. So we can leave the dyno numbers alone because we arent getting anywhere, the fact is that the GT-R isnt much faster than a 997 GT3 or M6. So out accelerating other cars is not it's strong suit.
#920
I have stated before that the GTR is really more of a track car despite the weight. I don't think it was ever intended to be a drag car. But those videos shows that it is capable of under 12 seconds. The under-rating hp and better tires is a better excuse than just the tires alone which what is Porsche is claiming.
#921
I don't think the GTR is a track car. It's just . . . one of those fast cars. Like a Lambo.
"Why? Because I can.."
"Why? Because I can.."
#922
Hello all, I'm a new member to the GTR forum and community having purchased my GTR 2 weeks ago FULL STOP
I see no point in doing a race from the dig because hard launches will trash any tranny in the end after repeated abuse.
No pics, No tests
It never happened
Youtube is Nissan's only proof
#923
This one might be modded, 11.27 is a bit suspect.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqK77GkjQeM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqK77GkjQeM
Read the youtube info "'09 Nissan GT-R drag races at PIR (Portland International Raceway). It is not stock."
#924
Cobb Tune, No Cats, Exhaust, Air Intake, and Soon to be replaced tranny..
#925
TechArt turbo loses to stock GTR. This time, an owner with both cars, WITH NO BIAS, admits the superiority of the GTR to the turbo. This reinforces the 7.29 at the Nurb yet again. Something for you P fanbois to choke on.
http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=25673
http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=25673
NO BIAS? Boy are you not smart. Superiority alright - yeah your complex..
#926
TechArt turbo loses to stock GTR. This time, an owner with both cars, WITH NO BIAS, admits the superiority of the GTR to the turbo. This reinforces the 7.29 at the Nurb yet again. Something for you P fanbois to choke on.
http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=25673
http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=25673
#927
#928
Actually Posherboy, i'm the one that posted those results from C&D. I was just proving a point that the GTR is under-rated. But you do have a good point, if you look closer at the results, the exit speed and time of the GTR is quite impressive. I would guess that has a lot to do with the AWD system.
#929
Hey p-boy when nissan/datsun wins Le Mans 16 times they can talk, until then f**k them and the horse they rode in on.
I'm interested in what you drive, as you are so anti-Porsche, can you please post a pic of your car?
I'm interested in what you drive, as you are so anti-Porsche, can you please post a pic of your car?
#930
So whats the end verdict?
*Porsche guy speaking*
*Porsche guy speaking*