997 TT beats GT-R at Ring. Nissan accused of cheating.
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What an honor to even be compared to such an over-the-top car. Perhaps the V-Spec will be competitve wth lap times, but I doubt (given economy, state of auto indistry and enery/environmental concerns) the ZR1 will be topped from a shear brutality perspective for 25 years.
For some reason, I still have an anti-Vette bias from a looks/stigma perspective. I acknowledge that the GT-R is far uglier from an objective perspective.
For some reason, I still have an anti-Vette bias from a looks/stigma perspective. I acknowledge that the GT-R is far uglier from an objective perspective.
I really hope Nissan does their homework with the Vspec, because if done properly, it could be something special like the GTR was for the general momentum for the motoring world. It definitely has it's work cut out to dethrone the ZR1 for sure.
Lets hope the same fiasco doesn't happen with the Vspec as it did with the regular model in terms of unbiased/untampered performance leading to 100pg threads on Porsche boards...
I don't have an anti-Vette bias anymore. I have had an odd love affair with the C6 series. I don't know why, but aesthetically they are pleasing, but also agressive, and now the inside is decent as well.
The GTR looks far better in person than in pictures, but still doesn't qualify as a timeless design/looker for me. R34 is more my cup of tea from all angles.
That being said, I never liked Vettes more than an average guy before, but since I had time in a C6 Z06, it really changed my perspective on quality you can expect from a Vette for the better.
Ok, so what's your best REAL WORLD time on the Ring?
#1293
Ouch. Didn't know you could glue rice on top of rice.
I wish they sold a GT-R "body kit" that replaces the production panels with the "camo" ones from testing. I prefer the smoother lines of the G35/37.
The way I rationalize driving around in such an ugly car is that the looks are like a label that signals that the contents are pretty special. If the car didn't beat a stock 997TT (note to HC: Stock=Stock, no asterisks) in every traditional performance measurement (according to the overwhelming consensus view), I would find it harder to deal with the ugliness...
I wish they sold a GT-R "body kit" that replaces the production panels with the "camo" ones from testing. I prefer the smoother lines of the G35/37.
The way I rationalize driving around in such an ugly car is that the looks are like a label that signals that the contents are pretty special. If the car didn't beat a stock 997TT (note to HC: Stock=Stock, no asterisks) in every traditional performance measurement (according to the overwhelming consensus view), I would find it harder to deal with the ugliness...
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Here's one I took along time ago at my house..
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Here's another one to OT this thread.
DHinkle on his way to Petit Le Mans to meet up with TEH APLINE 997 ZOMG
DHinkle on his way to Petit Le Mans to meet up with TEH APLINE 997 ZOMG
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GTR's will be in the 40's by the end of next spring. It is the dawning of the disposable sports car.
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I'm not sure what's happening in the States, but used prices of everything are falling through the floor in the UK. People can't give away 996s and Cayennes at the moment.
Current financial problems aside, I think the limited numbers of official GT-Rs in the UK should count in their favour as far as resale value is concerned. We shall see.
Current financial problems aside, I think the limited numbers of official GT-Rs in the UK should count in their favour as far as resale value is concerned. We shall see.
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I'm not sure what's happening in the States, but used prices of everything are falling through the floor in the UK. People can't give away 996s and Cayennes at the moment.
Current financial problems aside, I think the limited numbers of official GT-Rs in the UK should count in their favour as far as resale value is concerned. We shall see.
Current financial problems aside, I think the limited numbers of official GT-Rs in the UK should count in their favour as far as resale value is concerned. We shall see.
do all these rare GTR's come with spare trannies and brakes
I hear that popping the hood open not in the presense of an official nissan mechanic voids the warranty
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What's even more pathetic is, you could pick up a GTR and waste that extra $20k on a spare tranny right after you experience your first 0 - 60 in 3.3s
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