Hesitant
#76
My dealer is working with Alex!
If you are upfront with the service manager its amazing how much you can accomplish. This is one case where begging forgiveness is a bad idea.
I would encourage you to use your dealer. Let them ship out the ECU to Sharkwerks.
FWIW, my dealer advised against the ECU until 1000k miles. They didn't refuse to do it earlier, they just said its not a good idea.
The dealer installed all my other mods from Alex and there are at least a dozen others at the dealer who did the same thing.
If you are upfront with the service manager its amazing how much you can accomplish. This is one case where begging forgiveness is a bad idea.
I would encourage you to use your dealer. Let them ship out the ECU to Sharkwerks.
FWIW, my dealer advised against the ECU until 1000k miles. They didn't refuse to do it earlier, they just said its not a good idea.
The dealer installed all my other mods from Alex and there are at least a dozen others at the dealer who did the same thing.
#77
Please correct me:
1-The lattest EVOMSit works with OEM turbos ?
2-The SPORT botton turns on/off the EVOMSit prog?
3-It auto detects race fuel?
Now I have EVOMS handheld 4 prog and I switch from OEM to PUMP,RACE,KILL,Vallet when I want,this will not be available with the lattest EVOMSit prog?
1-The lattest EVOMSit works with OEM turbos ?
2-The SPORT botton turns on/off the EVOMSit prog?
3-It auto detects race fuel?
Now I have EVOMS handheld 4 prog and I switch from OEM to PUMP,RACE,KILL,Vallet when I want,this will not be available with the lattest EVOMSit prog?
#78
The dealer is really caught in a bad position here. If they turn a blind eye to mods and get caught they put their dealership at risk. If they flag everything and **** off the customer they loose potential sales/service down the road.
IMHO the approach to modifying your car and the consequences is your own. Protomotive, EVO and GIAC are all top knotch outfits. Each has pro & cons. Search the archives and you will turn up a wealth of information.
IMHO the approach to modifying your car and the consequences is your own. Protomotive, EVO and GIAC are all top knotch outfits. Each has pro & cons. Search the archives and you will turn up a wealth of information.
#79
Luiscarlos,
I believe the answer is "yes" to your first three questions. However, EVOsit (they used to use GIAC but no longer) does not offer a hand held device for switching fuel/setting options. From the many posts on this subject I gather some like this feature while others prefer the hand held (GIAC) device that also offers some additional options. EVOs web site has more details. GIAC website offers more info re hand held etc. You already may know this, if so my apologies.
K.
I believe the answer is "yes" to your first three questions. However, EVOsit (they used to use GIAC but no longer) does not offer a hand held device for switching fuel/setting options. From the many posts on this subject I gather some like this feature while others prefer the hand held (GIAC) device that also offers some additional options. EVOs web site has more details. GIAC website offers more info re hand held etc. You already may know this, if so my apologies.
K.
#80
People person
While it may have been implied in previous posts, I think it is more than just a dealer being mod friendly. From my experience with a few dealers it seems that the service manager's personality and communications skills play a large part as well. Some are very skilled, while others.....well I just have to wonder! However, this not specific to Porsche dealers.
K.
K.
#81
While it may have been implied in previous posts, I think it is more than just a dealer being mod friendly. From my experience with a few dealers it seems that the service manager's personality and communications skills play a large part as well. Some are very skilled, while others.....well I just have to wonder! However, this not specific to Porsche dealers.
K.
K.
#82
It goes beyond the service manager. My local dealer in Pasadena is Rusnak and from speaking with the service manager, Mr. Rusnak has put the kabosh on mods. He's not hurting for business. Imo, people who are P-car enthusiasts will continue to buy Porsches regardless if the dealer is mod-friendly or not.
#83
It goes beyond the service manager. My local dealer in Pasadena is Rusnak and from speaking with the service manager, Mr. Rusnak has put the kabosh on mods. He's not hurting for business. Imo, people who are P-car enthusiasts will continue to buy Porsches regardless if the dealer is mod-friendly or not.
Do you know what's the most most liberating feeling ?
I don't live my life caring what "Mr Rusnak" thinks when it comes to my car that I paid for.
Now I don't expect a region with low octane and high volume Prius (comprising a majority) to be all that thrilled with modded up cars .
But as long as they don't live my life or pay my bills then they can say whatever they want .
Yanno --it's ok to be unique .
#84
Modification emancipation--nothing like freedom to mod! One reason for the high Prius numbers out here can be attributed to their eligibilty to drive in car pools lanes with no passengers. Believe me, it's worth it, even you have to drive a Prius.
Btw, even though Rusnak is only a few miles from my house, I went with another dealer b/c I really don't care for the dealership.
Btw, even though Rusnak is only a few miles from my house, I went with another dealer b/c I really don't care for the dealership.
#85
Modification emancipation--nothing like freedom to mod! One reason for the high Prius numbers out here can be attributed to their eligibilty to drive in car pools lanes with no passengers. Believe me, it's worth it, even you have to drive a Prius.
Btw, even though Rusnak is only a few miles from my house, I went with another dealer b/c I really don't care for the dealership.
Btw, even though Rusnak is only a few miles from my house, I went with another dealer b/c I really don't care for the dealership.
I rented a Prius and got free parking at the Hotel . I respect some of the effort but refuse to have it forced on me .
I love the region but I would adapt and part of that process might be having the car but driving it less and finding someone who can fix it before even buying it. Or maybe NOT buying it .
If I lived in Manhattan I might buy a Porsche either. In other words I examine the paramters and figure out the choices I make which fit within them . I don't however measure them by someone elses expectations.
#86
I rented a Prius and got free parking at the Hotel . I respect some of the effort but refuse to have it forced on me .
I love the region but I would adapt and part of that process might be having the car but driving it less and finding someone who can fix it before even buying it. Or maybe NOT buying it .
If I lived in Manhattan I might buy a Porsche either. In other words I examine the paramters and figure out the choices I make which fit within them . I don't however measure them by someone elses expectations.
I love the region but I would adapt and part of that process might be having the car but driving it less and finding someone who can fix it before even buying it. Or maybe NOT buying it .
If I lived in Manhattan I might buy a Porsche either. In other words I examine the paramters and figure out the choices I make which fit within them . I don't however measure them by someone elses expectations.
#87
Guys, I encourage all of you to call your service manager and ask them about the warranty. This is a great discussion, but facts are facts and a warranty will only be null and void if the aftermarket part was the cause of the problem. It was much easier 10 years ago for OEM's to walk from warranties as OBD's were not able to provide the information they can today. Your SM will tell you the risk associated with each aftermarket part and what you stand to face come warranty claim time.
Would an ECU remap be under the label of misuse and abuse? This is a subjective question. Most people that mod cars drive more aggressively. Dealers know this and they assume that aggression means abuse. That is not the case and in most cases its just the opposite. Each of you is smart enough to know what abuse is and that is the main word that used to address the warranty. Not did the guy have an ECU. If the ECu remapping were creating massive amounts of abuse on the engine and drive train we would have heard about it by now. The truth is these cars are built to take a beating.
Would an ECU remap be under the label of misuse and abuse? This is a subjective question. Most people that mod cars drive more aggressively. Dealers know this and they assume that aggression means abuse. That is not the case and in most cases its just the opposite. Each of you is smart enough to know what abuse is and that is the main word that used to address the warranty. Not did the guy have an ECU. If the ECu remapping were creating massive amounts of abuse on the engine and drive train we would have heard about it by now. The truth is these cars are built to take a beating.
#88
Guys, I encourage all of you to call your service manager and ask them about the warranty. This is a great discussion, but facts are facts and a warranty will only be null and void if the aftermarket part was the cause of the problem. It was much easier 10 years ago for OEM's to walk from warranties as OBD's were not able to provide the information they can today. Your SM will tell you the risk associated with each aftermarket part and what you stand to face come warranty claim time.
Would an ECU remap be under the label of misuse and abuse? This is a subjective question. Most people that mod cars drive more aggressively. Dealers know this and they assume that aggression means abuse. That is not the case and in most cases its just the opposite. Each of you is smart enough to know what abuse is and that is the main word that used to address the warranty. Not did the guy have an ECU. If the ECu remapping were creating massive amounts of abuse on the engine and drive train we would have heard about it by now. The truth is these cars are built to take a beating.
Would an ECU remap be under the label of misuse and abuse? This is a subjective question. Most people that mod cars drive more aggressively. Dealers know this and they assume that aggression means abuse. That is not the case and in most cases its just the opposite. Each of you is smart enough to know what abuse is and that is the main word that used to address the warranty. Not did the guy have an ECU. If the ECu remapping were creating massive amounts of abuse on the engine and drive train we would have heard about it by now. The truth is these cars are built to take a beating.
#89
True, if the mod doesn't cause the problem the warranty "shouldn't" be voided...but unfortunately many dealers take the position that mods void warranty...they don't have to prove that the mod caused the problem - they just say "warranty voided" and then leave it up to you to fight the battle. Best to find the friendly dealer.
Believe it or not, this person is human and you can speak to him. Better yet, you can be there when he does his walk through!
Again, the dealer does not make this call!
#90
This is just not the case, no dealer has the power to handle warranty issues. The Porsche regional rep does!
Believe it or not, this person is human and you can speak to him. Better yet, you can be there when he does his walk through!
Again, the dealer does not make this call!
Believe it or not, this person is human and you can speak to him. Better yet, you can be there when he does his walk through!
Again, the dealer does not make this call!