GIAC rev limiter increase
#2
My only comment is everytime you hit the new rev limit, your ECU will record a Range I over-rev error (number of ignitions spent at that RPM.) During resale, a high number of over-revs signals abuse, but then again, so does a flashed ECU.
#3
Clarification please
Thanks bbywu.
I assume you mean that when I get near (not necessarily hit) the new rev limit, yet still above the stock rev limit, a Range 1 over limit error will be recorded. What I'm less clear on is the role of the newly flashed ECU. How does this effect the recording of the errors if it thinks the new limit is 7000? Does the reflash automatically record various errors regardless of the new rev limit? Any thoughts of "engine longevity" (holding driving styles constant) with increased rev limit? Does the new limit really feel that different?
Ok, enough questions. Anyone else have any input on this issue?
K.
I assume you mean that when I get near (not necessarily hit) the new rev limit, yet still above the stock rev limit, a Range 1 over limit error will be recorded. What I'm less clear on is the role of the newly flashed ECU. How does this effect the recording of the errors if it thinks the new limit is 7000? Does the reflash automatically record various errors regardless of the new rev limit? Any thoughts of "engine longevity" (holding driving styles constant) with increased rev limit? Does the new limit really feel that different?
Ok, enough questions. Anyone else have any input on this issue?
K.
#4
Thanks bbywu.
I assume you mean that when I get near (not necessarily hit) the new rev limit, yet still above the stock rev limit, a Range 1 over limit error will be recorded. What I'm less clear on is the role of the newly flashed ECU. How does this effect the recording of the errors if it thinks the new limit is 7000? Does the reflash automatically record various errors regardless of the new rev limit? Any thoughts of "engine longevity" (holding driving styles constant) with increased rev limit? Does the new limit really feel that different?
Ok, enough questions. Anyone else have any input on this issue?
K.
I assume you mean that when I get near (not necessarily hit) the new rev limit, yet still above the stock rev limit, a Range 1 over limit error will be recorded. What I'm less clear on is the role of the newly flashed ECU. How does this effect the recording of the errors if it thinks the new limit is 7000? Does the reflash automatically record various errors regardless of the new rev limit? Any thoughts of "engine longevity" (holding driving styles constant) with increased rev limit? Does the new limit really feel that different?
Ok, enough questions. Anyone else have any input on this issue?
K.
#5
Good question, hopefully the GIAC guys will chime in. It was my uinderstanding that the flash option that raises the rev limiter did just that, but any number of revs over the stock 6750 rev limit would still be recorded as over revs by the DME. That's why I kept mine at the stock rev limit.
#7
Comment?
Thanks!
K.
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#8
<!--StartFragment -->Actually, all of our current 997TT files have the over rev counters re-calibrated to the new rev limiter. You will not incur any counts of ignitions when staying below our 7200 rpm limit. This is truly one of the many unique advantages of a GIAC 997TT flash. Miss shifts or hammering the new rpm limiter excessively, can result in some counts, as they would on the stock program with the stock rev limit.
#11
Apologies
Was just trying to help and tell you the truth;( Go to any dealer right now and see how many thousands of over rev codes you have registered. Stock does NOT equal stock. I should know;(
I gather I have unwittingly upset or offended some one (or parties) with one of my posts in this thread (given the more than 300 -negative reputation response - yikes, is this a record? ). While I'm confused which exact post (or posts) this might be I assure you it was unintentional and certainly not in any way a personal attack. My apologies.
Thanks for the informative responses to my original question.
Happy New Year.
K.
P.S. Perhaps an administrator could offer an explanation of how this can occur so suddently.
Last edited by Kafka997; 01-01-2009 at 01:14 PM.
#12
Folks,
I gather I have unwittingly upset or offended some one (or parties) with one of my posts in this thread (given the more than 300 -negative reputation response - yikes, is this a record? ). While I'm confused which exact post (or posts) this might be I assure you it was unintentional and certainly not in any way a personal attack. My apologies.
Thanks for the informative responses to my original question.
Happy New Year.
K.
I gather I have unwittingly upset or offended some one (or parties) with one of my posts in this thread (given the more than 300 -negative reputation response - yikes, is this a record? ). While I'm confused which exact post (or posts) this might be I assure you it was unintentional and certainly not in any way a personal attack. My apologies.
Thanks for the informative responses to my original question.
Happy New Year.
K.
#13
<!--StartFragment -->Actually, all of our current 997TT files have the over rev counters re-calibrated to the new rev limiter. You will not incur any counts of ignitions when staying below our 7200 rpm limit. This is truly one of the many unique advantages of a GIAC 997TT flash. Miss shifts or hammering the new rpm limiter excessively, can result in some counts, as they would on the stock program with the stock rev limit.
Andrew, when did the over rev counter re-cal occur?
#14
I have been told increasing the rev limiter adds nothing to acceleration speed. The turbos offer nothing more after 6500-6700 anyway. For best acceleration it is best to shift out of first while a bit earlier than 6700. Keeping alert to do that is just a pain in the ***, it happens in an instance. For that reason and only that reason, it must be a bit of a thrill with the slush-automatic not having to worry about the tooth crushing rev limiter in 1st and 2nd when wanting the max out of your 911 turbo. Remembering to shift in an instance is just hard to remember when those turbos let loose. This new electro-controlled manual coming on stream soon may be the way to go.
#15
I can relate
I can relate - if you have even a mini-senior moment you are hitting the rev limiter in 1st! . Even the maximum benefit rpm shift points for each gear are tricky (for me) to figure out.
The rev limiter issues seems more complicated, and therefore more interesting, than I first imagined. Our P cars are very interesting and mods, regardless of which approach to technology you take, make it even more so. Good input folks.
K.
The rev limiter issues seems more complicated, and therefore more interesting, than I first imagined. Our P cars are very interesting and mods, regardless of which approach to technology you take, make it even more so. Good input folks.
K.
I have been told increasing the rev limiter adds nothing to acceleration speed. The turbos offer nothing more after 6500-6700 anyway. For best acceleration it is best to shift out of first while a bit earlier than 6700. Keeping alert to do that is just a pain in the ***, it happens in an instance. For that reason and only that reason, it must be a bit of a thrill with the slush-automatic not having to worry about the tooth crushing rev limiter in 1st and 2nd when wanting the max out of your 911 turbo. Remembering to shift in an instance is just hard to remember when those turbos let loose. This new electro-controlled manual coming on stream soon may be the way to go.
Last edited by Kafka997; 01-03-2009 at 11:00 AM.