Assuming you can get a leftover Turbo Cab (not coupe as this car will not see the track) w/ Tip for $25K off vs. waiting another 6 to 9 months for one w/ PDK at MSRP. Is the PDK worth 20K more, counting the model year adjustment? I can see the value of PDK more for track use but this is not the case w/ this Cab. Please advise as I want a Turbo Cab so bad but don't want outgoing technology but then again that 5 speed Tip in the Turbo is so darn good. I am so lost.....

 

I would get a manual and call it a day .

However (to answer your specific question) there are many things yet unknown about the new car (engine, production numbers, independent reviews, build scheduele) . What we do know about the current Tiptronic is that its transmission is dated . With the regular 997 and 997S cars tiptonics have fallen oit of favor and resale is harder than with manual. Most former tip drivers want PDK. I don't see how 25K off is a possibility on an untitled new leftover car. I am figuring between 15 to 20 depending on options .

 

So the dealer have confirmed PDK turbos will available for sale later with you?Or you just guessing?

 

Many dealers can try to confirm or deny info on PDK...they are usually clueless.

No announcement on PDK for the turbo. In fact...you'd have to ask yourself why the 997.2 GT3 doesn't have it yet.

 

When I came onboard the 997TT family I did not know how to drive a manual car, the deciding factor was that I didn't want to get a Tip because its a 5sp. After a week I would not go with a auto box unless I have to. To answer your question, if getting around the track the quickest isn't your best interest go with a manual, because the Tip is dated technology. A downside to the PDK would be that it can only handle a certain amount of HP before it gives way, so the potential for modding is not questionable. It is almost certain that Porsche would not ditch a 6Sp.

 

I'd be surprised if you could get a confirmed PDK clad turbo in 9 months ! Maybe a year and 9 months. I still think your looking at a 2012 model for PDK with availability in 2011. If she is available a year earlier that would be great. I have an 07 tip TT and drive her daily. I have almost 21K miles on her. The good think about buying the tip is that it can be modded and is a very well developed tranny. The PDK tranny, whenever its available, will be a new concept. I'm sure it would be better to wait for a year or two until the production line clears up any problems, but thats up to you. Anyway, thats what I'm going to do. Keep my 07 through 2012 or 2013 (ie. mod it, etc.) and then go for the "new" PDK version in a few years.

 

I drove a 996 GT3 for four years as my daily driver and now it is time to take it easy w/ a Tip or PDK. Since this will be a cab so it won't see the track and I still have other 6 speed cars to drive so the decision really is whether to wait for the unconfirmed fact that PDK will be out a few months or try to get a deal on a leftover Tip. I see Pioneer is discounting certain 997's at $20K so thought with the leftover Turbo's in Tip, there's a chance to get as much as $25K off. BTW, it was a Porsche salesman that told me the PDK will be out by summer but there's no reason for him to lie to me as this will only delay his sale as he could have sold me a CS2 Cab w/ PDK right there and then. And he sounded really sure.
A question for the TTT (Twin Turbo Tip hehe) owners... how do you like the Tip trans? Is it shifting or not shifting at the right time when you are driving agressively? How's the shift smoothness? The shift speed? Any lag after shifts from 1st to 2nd, 2nd to 3rd? Whatever impression you can share is much appreciated.

 

I was in the same dilema one year ago with my carrera s. My choises were to wait 6-8 months for the pdk to come out or get a tip now. I got the tip finally after some thought but I regret it now. The pdk will be a much better car but I don't know if it will be 20 k better. If I were you I would buy a leftover 6speed porsche manual boxes are the best.

 

dont buy something you dont want just bc its cheaper...

 

I find that the vast majority of manual TT owners are literally and embarrassingly clueless about the capabilities and versatility of the tip tranny. You simply can NOT drive it up and down the block, or even for an entire day, and understand what it can do. When driven in sport mode (it is the first button I hit after starting the car unless there is snow on the ground) AND in manual mode the car performs viscerally and emotionally like a typical 6 speed. I know, as my prior TT was an 03 X50 manual that I owned for 3 years and put almost 30K miles on her. When driven in auto mode, with the sport button on, the transmission IS lazy compared to the manual mode or the traditional 6 speed, that is 95% of the time when your not hammering the car. However, if you have the capability to really drive the car hard (ie. at the track, a DRE event or even fooling around on the street) the auto tranny comes alive - it will hold the gear for a LONG time (approx. 8 seconds) and is an extremely quick natural shifter. For my one DRE I did last year I was in auto mode so I didn't have to shift. I was faster than the GT3's in my run group. If your tooling around town (not on the freeway) its fun to be in manual mode as you have control of the engine revs and the car does make more noise. On the freeway just stick it in auto. If you have zero traffic (unlike NYC which is a freaking misery - my misery) I'd say go for a 6 speed. However, if you do hit traffic and the occasional open road, I'd opt for the "boring" tip, You can live with a tip for 3 or 4 years and then switch to PDK. Also please don't let the manual crowd tell you that your tip is slower than a manual blah blah blah. That is pure unadulterated horsesh..t. I guarantee you that unless your adversary is a modded something or other or a big block superbike, your tip TT will NEVER leave you feeling embarrassed.

 

Very well said and great insight into the Tip. Thank you. I fight the downtown Los Angeles traffic daily and since I already have a Viper ACR for track, Lotus for autox, Ford GT for top speed, I'm not interested in a 6 speed anymore. You might have convinced me to look for a leftover Tip so the next thing I'll do is to go test drive one.

 

I definitely have to agree with tortesq1, with the sport program on the car is a monster.
Once you get the filing of when to use the shifters on steering wheel you well love it, also they are software programs available to improve the tip transitions .
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I have never heard of 25 k off either. I have never heard of 2k off a TT coupe either. in Austin, if you put an add that you have an 08 TT coupe, it will sell in hours...
Please by all means tell me who is selling TT's for 25k off NEW i will by a few to make a killing profit.

 

PDK is much superior to Tip in every way shape or form. I would wait for actual confirmation that it is really coming in the Turbo next year.

 

The tip is a great car . It's just dated . In fact the current PDK will be dated the day that paddles arrive (whenever that may be who knows) .
The manual is timeless because a gear rowing shift been dated for decades yet survived . The tip won't.

The 997.2 shows the trend of PDK and Manuals . Tips have vanished .