wind buffeting
#1
wind buffeting
hi 6speeders
i just recently upgraded suspension on my tt with H&R springs and sways. the sways are set soft-front/neutral-rear. i recently went on a rode trip through the hills of WV & VA; it happened to be a windy day; wind gustof 25mph. i noticed with speeds reaching 85-105mph that the steering felt "light" and that the car started to sway sideways? i felt like i was going to lose "control" of the car @ any second! i especially felt it over a long span bridge! i am not sure if the wind played a role in this or that i should have the suspension evaluated? i thought by upgrading suspension that the car would handle with confidence @ higher speeds. very confused; PLEASE POST REPLYS/THOUGHTS. thanx
i just recently upgraded suspension on my tt with H&R springs and sways. the sways are set soft-front/neutral-rear. i recently went on a rode trip through the hills of WV & VA; it happened to be a windy day; wind gustof 25mph. i noticed with speeds reaching 85-105mph that the steering felt "light" and that the car started to sway sideways? i felt like i was going to lose "control" of the car @ any second! i especially felt it over a long span bridge! i am not sure if the wind played a role in this or that i should have the suspension evaluated? i thought by upgrading suspension that the car would handle with confidence @ higher speeds. very confused; PLEASE POST REPLYS/THOUGHTS. thanx
Last edited by 997tt RS 2.7; 04-26-2009 at 09:47 PM.
#3
Originally Posted by VSE
part of that upgraded suspension should have been a corner balance and then alignment...sounds like you may have some toe issues
alignment on all 4 wheels. should i have them revaluate their work. sorry; what do you mean by toe issues (i'm a newb)
#4
toe is the amount of wheel angle inward or outward (toe in/toe out) and with these cars has a significant effect on directional stability..it would be nice if they had given you the alignment specs so we would know where you are starting from...if the car feels darty or unstable even at sub 3 digit speeds then it is likely a toe issue...all of them get light in front at high speed but not as badly as you described...do you still have the front splitter or have you lost it after being lowered?
#5
You should have left the place with your alignment specs in hand, not only to verify their work but for future adjustments if necessary.
But this could be from many factors, on a bridge could be much more wind and road surface issues. All I know my setup and alignment from GMG feels rock solid at any speed / conditions (although mild) Ive come against in 12 months.
How did it handle in the twisties? If it was great then maybe the wind was much stronger than estimated?
But this could be from many factors, on a bridge could be much more wind and road surface issues. All I know my setup and alignment from GMG feels rock solid at any speed / conditions (although mild) Ive come against in 12 months.
How did it handle in the twisties? If it was great then maybe the wind was much stronger than estimated?
#6
toe is the amount of wheel angle inward or outward (toe in/toe out) and with these cars has a significant effect on directional stability..it would be nice if they had given you the alignment specs so we would know where you are starting from...if the car feels darty or unstable even at sub 3 digit speeds then it is likely a toe issue...all of them get light in front at high speed but not as badly as you described...do you still have the front splitter or have you lost it after being lowered?
i take it back to dealer or go elsewhere who knows what they are doing?
thanx for the reply
#7
You should have left the place with your alignment specs in hand, not only to verify their work but for future adjustments if necessary.
But this could be from many factors, on a bridge could be much more wind and road surface issues. All I know my setup and alignment from GMG feels rock solid at any speed / conditions (although mild) Ive come against in 12 months.
How did it handle in the twisties? If it was great then maybe the wind was much stronger than estimated?
But this could be from many factors, on a bridge could be much more wind and road surface issues. All I know my setup and alignment from GMG feels rock solid at any speed / conditions (although mild) Ive come against in 12 months.
How did it handle in the twisties? If it was great then maybe the wind was much stronger than estimated?
stable and the same "lite steering" as stock. any suggestions? thanx
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#8
it's hard to say...your dealer could have completed a proper alignment but the fact they didn't give you the specs concerns me...contact either PCA or POC in your area and find a good local tech that can check the alignment specs...to get a little more basic...what wheels and tires are on the car..the tires can make a huge difference in feel and handling...I don't understand your feeling of light steering either...these cars give great feedback...I'm getting suspicious of the tires you have on the car
#9
My car has Michelin PS2s, a proper alignment and a corner balance and I noticed it being buffeted by the wind recently. I don't think it is unusual. If this is your first Porsche, you may not be used to the steering feel.
#10
it's hard to say...your dealer could have completed a proper alignment but the fact they didn't give you the specs concerns me...contact either PCA or POC in your area and find a good local tech that can check the alignment specs...to get a little more basic...what wheels and tires are on the car..the tires can make a huge difference in feel and handling...I don't understand your feeling of light steering either...these cars give great feedback...I'm getting suspicious of the tires you have on the car
the steering; feels overboosted esp. @ higher speeds. i have an 08 boxster SE and that car does give great feedback @ anyspeed (stock).
you would think a $160K tt would steer better. i'm very puzzled; i
thought the upgrade would have improved stock version and it cost me
$2400 to do so!
#11
yes it is my first tt; but i have a boxster SE (orange/stock) that steers alot better and i have confidence with it @ higher speeds. i was only going about 85-90mph with the tt and i felt like i was going to lose control @ any second (not confidence inspiring!) i'm afraid to track it now!
#14
Just happen to think about combo. Springs and sways which will take some of the over-steer out along with lack of shock control and possible lack of experience with this type of car could spell trouble.
I would suggest going to coil-overs and start with more of a stiff front and soft rear on the sways and then adjust accordingly as you get the feel of it closer to the limit on a track.
I would suggest going to coil-overs and start with more of a stiff front and soft rear on the sways and then adjust accordingly as you get the feel of it closer to the limit on a track.
#15
Just happen to think about combo. Springs and sways which will take some of the over-steer out along with lack of shock control and possible lack of experience with this type of car could spell trouble.
I would suggest going to coil-overs and start with more of a stiff front and soft rear on the sways and then adjust accordingly as you get the feel of it closer to the limit on a track.
I would suggest going to coil-overs and start with more of a stiff front and soft rear on the sways and then adjust accordingly as you get the feel of it closer to the limit on a track.
Virginia with a 25mph headwind; then all of a sudden the car started to
sway side to side as tried to control the steering! VERY FRIGHTFUL
elevated heartrate; it's good thing i'm in good health