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Could someone explain Ruf pricing ? 650hp Mod=$119k ?

http://www.rufautocentre.com/conversions/997_Turbo.asp


650 hp (478 kW) – manual transmission – incl. assembly
  • Fine tuned engine electronics, sports air filter, conversion of exhaust with 4 round 76 mm end tips and sports catalytic converters, 2 turbo chargers in exchange, titanium connecting rods, 3.8 litre cylinder capacity, transmission oil cooler and stronger limited slip differential for 6 speed manual transmission, stronger clutch
  • R97 100 100 57 ..... $ 119500.00
  • Price for tiptronic transmission ..... On request
  • Conversion of exhaust system with 4 round 76 mm end tips and sports catalytic converters
  • R97 100 111 12 ..... $7950.00
 
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Originally Posted by porschenaround
http://www.rufautocentre.com/conversions/997_Turbo.asp


650 hp (478 kW) – manual transmission – incl. assembly
  • Fine tuned engine electronics, sports air filter, conversion of exhaust with 4 round 76 mm end tips and sports catalytic converters, 2 turbo chargers in exchange, titanium connecting rods, 3.8 litre cylinder capacity, transmission oil cooler and stronger limited slip differential for 6 speed manual transmission, stronger clutch
  • R97 100 100 57 ..... $ 119500.00
  • Price for tiptronic transmission ..... On request
  • Conversion of exhaust system with 4 round 76 mm end tips and sports catalytic converters
  • R97 100 111 12 ..... $7950.00
It's an engine swap. Ruf pulls your engine and replaces it with an RT12's.
 
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Originally Posted by porschenaround
http://www.rufautocentre.com/conversions/997_Turbo.asp


650 hp (478 kW) – manual transmission – incl. assembly

  • Fine tuned engine electronics, sports air filter, conversion of exhaust with 4 round 76 mm end tips and sports catalytic converters, 2 turbo chargers in exchange, titanium connecting rods, 3.8 litre cylinder capacity, transmission oil cooler and stronger limited slip differential for 6 speed manual transmission, stronger clutch
  • R97 100 100 57 ..... $ 119500.00
  • Price for tiptronic transmission ..... On request
  • Conversion of exhaust system with 4 round 76 mm end tips and sports catalytic converters
  • R97 100 111 12 ..... $7950.00
left out one important thing...nice fat profit for Mr. and Mrs. RUF
 
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Well, okay, but even the 600hp kit is $44k. Are people really buying into this ? Its just uncomprehending, if i handed a 07 997tt and $40k to one of our quality race sponsors here, i would have one amazing complete package system with interior safety to exterior, from brakes to engine, and more ...
 
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Originally Posted by porschenaround
Well, okay, but even the 600hp kit is $44k. Are people really buying into this ? Its just uncomprehending, if i handed a 07 997tt and $40k to one of our quality race sponsors here, i would have one amazing complete package system with interior safety to exterior, from brakes to engine, and more ...
Ye,but thats RUF..An independent porsche tuner..They gotta a fantastic histroy,full with good sounds of honours,crowns.Own making brand registed(you can get an RT12 and reg as "RUF RT12",not a porsche anymore,None other tuners can do that).

So they playing big money and they wanting big money.They standing for those real european styled rich life people with huge garage and drive different cars out of garage everyday.They want something different but must done it the "luxury" way.Then RUF is the place to go!
 
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Originally Posted by porschenaround
Well, okay, but even the 600hp kit is $44k. Are people really buying into this ? Its just uncomprehending, if i handed a 07 997tt and $40k to one of our quality race sponsors here, i would have one amazing complete package system with interior safety to exterior, from brakes to engine, and more ...
If I'm not mistaken, I don't think there are any Ruf 600s in the US...most of us have gone with the 550. Even when talking to the guys down in Dallas, they will tell you the 600 kit is very steep. And performance numbers show the 550 really keeps up with the 600.

I agree with you...the price is staggering for simply upgraded VTGs, exhaust, ECU, and clutch.
 
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I believe its totally overpriced. If you do an ECU-exhaust mod from any tuner, American or European you will pretty much get same results. So again any kit from any tuner with modified VTGs will be at the same league.

Its obvious that European tuners are usually more expensive than Americans but RUF its a total no buy option (price wise) !

The only thing that confuses in case of power is that each one translates power in different units.

Whatever the case i believe that American 700kits are more powerful and more worth it.
 
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I believe its totally overpriced. If you do an ECU-exhaust mod from any tuner, American or European you will pretty much get same results.
Not to start a tuner flame war, but I am not convinced this is true. If you have data to back this up, please post it...I would be interested in seeing pbox numbers or videos. But after independent runs over the last few weeks, I found the results to be different.
 

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Remind me the 997guru FVD topic earlier this year.He claimed his FVD stage3 620HP kit running similer 60-130 time as US tuner's 700hp kit.but not sure why his run didnt approved finally..

Just did a search.
His time been approve by teamspeed forum,I can see it on the board:

" 6.73 - Salihbjk / 997TT FVD Stage 3 "
http://www.teamspeed.com/forums/997-...-186-300k.html

Here's guru's topic about his car :
http://www.teamspeed.com/forums/997-...ed-997-tt.html

So I think I have to believe then..At least by now my 700us cant get that time,I have VBOX,will figure out all the possible problems in my car and fill race gas ,find a 2%-3% decrease road and have the final try..
 

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Originally Posted by bbywu
Not to start a tuner flame war, but I am not convinced this is true. If you have data to back this up, please post it...I would be interested in seeing pbox numbers or videos. But after independent runs over the last few weeks, I found the results to be different.
What data do you want to see? 100-200 kph, 1/4 mile, standing mile? I have data for each of US tuned, bolt-on cars with mods that cost less than 1/4 of the price of the RUF 650HP kit running faster than a RUF RT-12.

Let me know exactly what you're looking to see.
 
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Originally Posted by lintc0532
Ye,but thats RUF..An independent porsche tuner..They gotta a fantastic histroy,full with good sounds of honours,crowns.Own making brand registed(you can get an RT12 and reg as "RUF RT12",not a porsche anymore,None other tuners can do that).

So they playing big money and they wanting big money.They standing for those real european styled rich life people with huge garage and drive different cars out of garage everyday.They want something different but must done it the "luxury" way.Then RUF is the place to go!
from what i know Brabus is the same
 
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Originally Posted by Divexxtreme
What data do you want to see? 100-200 kph, 1/4 mile, standing mile? I have data for each of US tuned, bolt-on cars with mods that cost less than 1/4 of the price of the RUF 650HP kit running faster than a RUF RT-12.

Let me know exactly what you're looking to see.
Scott, do you have a pbox run for a a US tuned exhaust+ECU (pump fuel) on a 997TT?
 

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I am very interested in this thread. One thing that struck me, was how much longer it took Ruf to come out with the upgrades for the 997. They have tremendous resources, and experience. So why did it take them a year plus longer than everyone else. I hope thta means they are testing more and creating a better product. I want a 550-600 hp engine, but I want Porsche quality tuning. No CEL's, no issues, period. I am leaning towards Ruf, but I also am watching all the threads regardinf Sharwerks/Switzer/etc,
 
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Originally Posted by bbywu
Scott, do you have a pbox run for a a US tuned exhaust+ECU (pump fuel) on a 997TT?
No, I'm sorry but I don't. No files for a 997TT with only those mods.

What exactly are you trying to compare it to? I thought the point was to compare a US tuned 997TT to a RT-12 motor that costs $120k?
 


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