Intercooler upgrade
#16
Cannga- Sorry, I am asking Mike of AWE a question.
Mike- I just received a Ruf RTurbo with Porsche Motorsports GT2 intercoolers replacing the orginal ones from Ruf. This is a 996 variant, Ruf VIN, do you know anything about these intercoolers? The car has the "Nardo" 590bhp engine
Thanks in advance - Gerry
Mike- I just received a Ruf RTurbo with Porsche Motorsports GT2 intercoolers replacing the orginal ones from Ruf. This is a 996 variant, Ruf VIN, do you know anything about these intercoolers? The car has the "Nardo" 590bhp engine
Thanks in advance - Gerry
#17
1. Are there protective benefits to other components of the turbo system when you lower Intake Air Temp? That is, does lower IAT affect THAT MUCH the operating temp of the turbo's components, like that VGT?
Or is the benefit of a better intercooler mainly an increase in power from cool, dense air?
Or is the benefit of a better intercooler mainly an increase in power from cool, dense air?
A properly designed intercooler will have little loss in pressure when exiting the intercooler.
Go too big and the air has to fill this massive cavity. That will then slow things up when it comes out the other end. This then will equal less power.
So there is no real "acceptable" drop. The goal is to just make sure it is as little as possible without actually causing a restriction.
It's a fine line, but with experience and proper testing we feel these are the perfect balance.
#18
Let me clarify what I wrote. I am not an engineer, so I apologize. I was corrected.
The volume of intercooler does not equal pressure restriction. It's actually a combo of charge row sizing, number of fins inside the rows, and end tank design. For example, our FMIC we offer for the B7 and B8 Audi A4 2.0T is huge, but has a very low pressure drop.
The volume of intercooler does not equal pressure restriction. It's actually a combo of charge row sizing, number of fins inside the rows, and end tank design. For example, our FMIC we offer for the B7 and B8 Audi A4 2.0T is huge, but has a very low pressure drop.
#19
Mike,
Thank you for taking the time from your busy schedule to explain. I really appreciate it.
I believe one time I asked you (or maybe another pro) and was told that YES, when you upgrade the intercooler you should upgrade the ECU software to take full advantage.
But looking at the data presented so far, it seems to me the advantages of the better A.W.E. intercooler are there even if you don't plan to upgrade the ECU software, correct?
I think the answer will be relevant to someone like me, who has MORE than enough power with my GIAC stage 2 , or perhaps someone with another brand of ECU mod, that does not have specific intercooler software upgrade?
Congrats, as always, on the great work. It's really a good thing that I don't live close to your shop -- I could see myself hanging out at the A.W.E. shop all the time. Easily.
Thank you for taking the time from your busy schedule to explain. I really appreciate it.
I believe one time I asked you (or maybe another pro) and was told that YES, when you upgrade the intercooler you should upgrade the ECU software to take full advantage.
But looking at the data presented so far, it seems to me the advantages of the better A.W.E. intercooler are there even if you don't plan to upgrade the ECU software, correct?
I think the answer will be relevant to someone like me, who has MORE than enough power with my GIAC stage 2 , or perhaps someone with another brand of ECU mod, that does not have specific intercooler software upgrade?
Congrats, as always, on the great work. It's really a good thing that I don't live close to your shop -- I could see myself hanging out at the A.W.E. shop all the time. Easily.
#20
really good info guys and Yeah Mike you are the man. even though you are not an engineer I have learned a lot from you being a Mechanical Engineer graduating soon
thank you all
thank you all
#22
Mike,
Thank you for taking the time from your busy schedule to explain. I really appreciate it.
I believe one time I asked you (or maybe another pro) and was told that YES, when you upgrade the intercooler you should upgrade the ECU software to take full advantage.
But looking at the data presented so far, it seems to me the advantages of the better A.W.E. intercooler are there even if you don't plan to upgrade the ECU software, correct?
I think the answer will be relevant to someone like me, who has MORE than enough power with my GIAC stage 2 , or perhaps someone with another brand of ECU mod, that does not have specific intercooler software upgrade?
Congrats, as always, on the great work. It's really a good thing that I don't live close to your shop -- I could see myself hanging out at the A.W.E. shop all the time. Easily.
Thank you for taking the time from your busy schedule to explain. I really appreciate it.
I believe one time I asked you (or maybe another pro) and was told that YES, when you upgrade the intercooler you should upgrade the ECU software to take full advantage.
But looking at the data presented so far, it seems to me the advantages of the better A.W.E. intercooler are there even if you don't plan to upgrade the ECU software, correct?
I think the answer will be relevant to someone like me, who has MORE than enough power with my GIAC stage 2 , or perhaps someone with another brand of ECU mod, that does not have specific intercooler software upgrade?
Congrats, as always, on the great work. It's really a good thing that I don't live close to your shop -- I could see myself hanging out at the A.W.E. shop all the time. Easily.
If you do have aftermarket software, regardless of brand, ask your tuner if they have IC specific software. This can't hurt.
A turbo car will always love cool temps and higher octane gas. Heat is your enemy. If she is inhaling the coolest possible air, she will perform at peak levels even when giver her a proper beating...
Can, if you are ever on the East Coast, I urge you to stop by. I enjoy giving tours and there are 25 guys here that would also like to meet an out of town guest....
#24
I have to admit...on my way to work this morning while it was cool my car was a monster...on the way home it was hot as heck and it wasn't the same...
I can't believe I'm even thinking about intercoolers...I need to log off...
I can't believe I'm even thinking about intercoolers...I need to log off...
#26
On a serious note, on hot days my car does pull back timing. I think an intercooler would be the next item on my list.
#27
In hot weather and larger Ic my car still acts up.
#30
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