Isn't there another thread on this very same topic....

 

If you check the posting time you ll find my thread is the first to show everyone this great news..

 

everyone saids "wet" sump but brochure states "integrated dry" sump; which is it? i just don't get it; only a 20hp jump? the new 458 "italia" from you know who has almost 70hp more than, mind you, the Scuderia, with less weight to boot! what gives! dealer stated with porsche it is all about emissions!

 

Regardless of wet sump/dry sump argument, if Porsche thinks they can sell turbo cabs for 157k Euro ($225,000) they are on crack. I hope they continued their currency hedging. 500hp can be had for far less. If they bring it close to the '09 pricing, it will sell.

As for the cosmetics, was hoping for bit more, and IMHO the wheels suck, but Champion can remedy that in a heartbeat......

And if they added VENTILATION to the adaptives, and a nicer steering wheel (not bad so far in pics), I could be drooling soon.

 

It's an integrated dry sump.

 

WTF does that mean "integrated dry"; is that Porsche's politically correct term for "wet" sump!

 

The separate oil reservoir is now contained within the engine's case rather than outside like a traditional dry sump. The benefits of a traditional dry sump are still present.

 

looked up 09 turbo brochure word "integrated dry" nowhere to be found!
specifically states "dry" sump lubrication. A91 is a "wet" sump! it's Porsche's Clinton speak. 09 brochure states ".... With a classic dry-sump system, the 911 Turbo ensures ideal oil pressure even under extreme g-force loads....." what once was a special "race" car company is now gone! gonna keep my 09 tt for a long time

 

No kidding, 2007-2009 turbos are dry sump. 2010 are integrated. 997.1 Carreras (excluding turbo, GT3 and GT2) are wet sump. .2 Carreras are integrated and .2 GT3 is dry.

There was a great vid on Porsche's .2 motors. I'll try to find it.

 

The picture has the engine sitting on it's oilpan......that's a wetsump aka integrated dry sump.

 

I just like the new tail pipes, they are bigger and fit in a lot nicer... they can keep the rest.

 

What can be seen is being discussed - the "Dry" vs. Wet 'Integrated'", what concerns me is what cannot be seen, like the new motor's metallurgy, crankcase design, etc compared to the GT1 design. Taking the profit center philosophy that created the "integrated" wet sump, then extending it into the internals is the source of my skepticism.

If the GT1 design is gone - to reiterate someone's excellent point - why does the "Turbo option" with its addition of two turbos, intercoolers and a tail to (what has now just become essentially) a Carrera S PDK 3.8 raise the MSRP 25K?, that is the price of another car...

 

You have some vaild points, however, the $25k theory can used to justify an M3 over a C2S PDK and on and on...

 

Was it cost cutting or the need to meet emissions and fuel efficiency that Porsche decided to go with a new engine?

 

now that's what i'm talking about, i knew there was an oilpan involved;
"integrated dry sump" porsche speak for "wet" sump. i hope they do not ruin the GT3, RS, or GT2 (more than likely will get the 3.8 "wet" sump). can anyone say "Ferrari"