OP just posted a race between two cars. Of course there has to be a winner and a loser. Now all the drama about price points, stigmas, heritage, quality, interior and what-if mods. Sounds like a "my dad can beat up your dad" debate. Both cool cars. I'm pretty sure the stock GT2 is faster than stock Z any day.

 

The Z06 is not a competitor to the GT2 anyway. The Z06 is more in line with the 997tt.

The ZR1 blows the hood off the GT2, which IS a direct competitor.

Vette > Fanboys

 

An interior costs 125k? So how much is allocated for the rest of the car?



I haven't seen where you answered the part where a 911 should have an advanced interior? Quality YES, advanced? . They made it plain on purpose so people would go and spend another 15k on custom interiors, WHICH THEY DID.


I've said more times than anyone here that the TT's aren't worth (to me) 125-130k. But 100k, easily, and the interior is not what makes the car worth 100k. How about a race proven bullet proof engine? In fact the same block that races and wins on the weekends professionally. How many other cars you know have the same thing?


Both you and Amerlemans can argue all day till you're blue in the face, but the fact remains that a car is worth whatever people will pay for it, and judging by the MSRP of the new Turbo at 130k you guys are arguing with yourselves because Porsche will continue to sell cars.

And you say THIS looks better. THE LEATHER IS HUNG LIKE CURTAINS FOR GOODNESS SAKE!!!!!! Same clock straight out of a Camry. You really have lost it.

 

That could be an intentional design element. See '90s MB S-class for reference.

 

This could be argued all day and i'm not defending chevy, but they are opinions so you should just agree to disagree.

If we are going to associate the interior of the car with the dollar cost of MSRP, then I have to say none of the supercars meet my expectations....and I've ridden in ferrari enzos (600k new and 1.4m now), carrera GTs and plenty of others. I have been in quite a few ferraris (my BIL), and none of the interiors are impressive relative to what the cars sold for.

 

It's still hideous unless you were born in the 80's. I'll take blunt quality over cheap elegance anytime. Curtain leather with a huge plastic console right in the middle isn't exactly modern, even for the 90's. I don't intend for this to be some sort of bash fest on whatever cars we can think of, but there is no mistaking that the quality of a Porsche interior is among the best even the 996. The lacking part is elegance and lots of design.

However I'm too busy driving and looking ahead to the next apex to pay much attention to the interior and I'd rather be impressed by the way the car drives than all the luxuries. Porsche's were never built to be plush and notice how the 997's all got bigger and blingier and further away from what Porsche started with.

I even get peeved with whiners who buy Corvette's and whine about the interior while their driving all slow blocking traffic on the highway, IT'S A SPORTS CAR.........DRIVE IT!!! If you want to buy an interior to look at go buy a Mercedes, BMW, Jaguar etc.


But still Corvette interior comparable to 996 TT interior. AHAHAHAAHAHAH That still cracks me up. These guys are really funny.

 

caravaggio has some nice work....

 

dsvettes has some very nice work also and nice alcantara use........but u are right both cars have thier if's and but's...but when it comes down to it u can go as custom as you want to whatever taste u have...we should never h8 on these cars for they are both beautiful machines just my 2 cents...

 

The point is that in 2003, Porsche stood in front of you with a straight face and demanded that you cough up 125k for this...




And now, a mere 6 years latter you've put on your tin foil fanboy cap and tried to trick us into thinking it was well worth it back then. GMAFB

You keep posting pictures of 2001 lexus intreriors...



The 2001 Lexus SC430 was about 60k back then. The 996 interior looks like a 20K one in comparison.

We have eyes. You cant fool anyone here HeavyFanboy.

 

you do have a argument there but may i point out that people would buy porsches for their performance and heritage rather than thier looks and interior design... atleast the door panels are not falling off and the a/c and components work...

 

"Hideous" implies aesthetic appeal when before you semed to imply that curtain leather was a quality issue.
The curtain leather is not a quality issue; it was contemporary for other cars of its time.
By your admission that the 996 interior is blunt and plain, there's not much to recommend in terms of style.
Most 996's have a huge plastic console right in the middle too.

 

Is your friend's R8 interior, by chance, a victim of an arson fire?
Or perhaps he was drunk when he told you this?
Because from what I'm seeing, your interior has nothing on an R8.

Yours


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So what you're saying is that based on those pictures, a SC430 should be worth more than a 996 Turbo brand new?

And you pick the dustiest dirty picture of an interior vs marketing shots? How desperate are you?

You still completely ignore the rest of the car which you've done from the start. Let's see how many cars were faster than a 996 TT in 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004 and cost less. Or have you forgotten that performance has something to do with the price?

If you are so stuck on interiors you go ahead, and see how that lexus gets you around the track compared to the 996 TT. And then ask yourself how much it's worth. Try building the motor to 700 hp on stock internals. Try taking it apart and seeing the detail in which the car was built.

You've found a way to reduce auto enthusiasm to an interior. Pretty laughable if you ask me. Frankly I'm not really concerned about your opinion so I'm not going to bother with your desperate attempts to prove a point given the fact that Turbos have and will be sold for MSRP regardless of what you think about them.


I'll let you continue with your nonsense mr interior man. Please send a memo to Porsche and tell them their Porsche Turbos are only worth 85k and if it works we will all thank you.

But I won't hold my breath.

 

Who ever said that? HeavyFanboy, you need to quit jumping in the middle of threads to blindly defend Porsche if you haven’t been following the narrative.

This all started with me calling someone out for ragging on other cars with crap interiors compared to the 'Refinement of a Porsche" I kindly reminded them that they should keep their mouth shut (about interiors) because EVERYTHING before the 997 had a garbage interior, lets not even mention the first Boxters.











Here's a actual photo of a $60k 2002 Lexus. Like it really even mattered. You can tell the interior of a $125k 996 an abominable comparison, no matter which photos you put up.



Like I said HeavyFanboy, go back to page 4 and see where this all started. A couple members were pissing on the Corvette interior (rightfully so), but were in doing it in a smug fashion, as if to say Porsches have always had nice interiors, which just until as recent as 2005 couldn’t be further from the truth.

Your whole argument of performance taking precedence over everything else is complete hogwash. If that were the case the 997 would STILL have the loathsome interior the 996 had. Do you think Porsche put a nice interior in the 997 by mistake? They were obviously aware of the hypocrisy of charging 100k for a car and fitting it with a 30k interior.

You can never excuse the heinous interior of the 996 by citing its performance, because the car still cost 100k. For that amount of money EVERYTHING about the car should be befitting of its price tag.

 

Gt2 all the way