TPC Racing's New 3+ DampHR Coilovers!
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Casey, I continue to be fascinated by TPC's groundbreaking work with the Bilstein Damptronic. This is the first third party shock dyno I've ever seen on the the PSS series, both 9 and 10!! If I am in your area, there is no question who would be tuning my car's suspension! (I mean it.)
Anyway, I've been looking at your shock dyno and comparing it to the one I got from Bilstein of the PSS10. (The reason is I like to know which of the 2 curves of the Bilstein PSS10 are used for the Bilstein Damptronic.) There is something about the unit of the x axis of your chart (shaft velocity) that I can't figure out. The unit seems to be off somehow?
For example, at 2 inch/sec on your curve, the equivalent point on the Bilstein curve is around .2 m/s, which is 8 inch/sec. At 4 inch/sec on your curve, the Bilstein equivalent is 16 inch/sec. Did I do something wrong to cause this rather large discrepancy on the x axis between the 2 curves? TIA and hope you'll continue the great work.
Anyway, I've been looking at your shock dyno and comparing it to the one I got from Bilstein of the PSS10. (The reason is I like to know which of the 2 curves of the Bilstein PSS10 are used for the Bilstein Damptronic.) There is something about the unit of the x axis of your chart (shaft velocity) that I can't figure out. The unit seems to be off somehow?
For example, at 2 inch/sec on your curve, the equivalent point on the Bilstein curve is around .2 m/s, which is 8 inch/sec. At 4 inch/sec on your curve, the Bilstein equivalent is 16 inch/sec. Did I do something wrong to cause this rather large discrepancy on the x axis between the 2 curves? TIA and hope you'll continue the great work.
Last edited by cannga; 03-04-2010 at 12:08 AM.
#20
Can,
Mike and I stared and tried to comprehend your post for about 10 minutes and we are still unclear.
I can tell you that the dyno we use has won Grand am and ALMS races for more that just us... I watched mike pull the info off of it when that was done a while ago.
Please clarify your question and I will do my best to answer it.
Mike and I stared and tried to comprehend your post for about 10 minutes and we are still unclear.
I can tell you that the dyno we use has won Grand am and ALMS races for more that just us... I watched mike pull the info off of it when that was done a while ago.
Please clarify your question and I will do my best to answer it.
#21
Can,
Mike and I stared and tried to comprehend your post for about 10 minutes and we are still unclear.
I can tell you that the dyno we use has won Grand am and ALMS races for more that just us... I watched mike pull the info off of it when that was done a while ago.
Please clarify your question and I will do my best to answer it.
Mike and I stared and tried to comprehend your post for about 10 minutes and we are still unclear.
I can tell you that the dyno we use has won Grand am and ALMS races for more that just us... I watched mike pull the info off of it when that was done a while ago.
Please clarify your question and I will do my best to answer it.
Ok the question is this. Looking at the shape of your curve, more specifically at the knee of the curve where the rebound & compression force starts to plateau: in the Bilstein curve this knee occurs at the transition of low speed to high speed bump, at shaft velocity of 8 inch per second, on your curve it's at 2-3 inch per second.
It seems the horizontal scales of the 2 curves, Bilstein versus yours, are off by a factor of 4 or so? Is it related to the method of measurement?
Last edited by cannga; 03-04-2010 at 01:01 PM.
#23
Can I will get back with you on monday regarding that. All I can say is that maybe bilsteins graph is off since it looks like a rendering and not an actual dyno. Thankfully i am taking tomorrow and saturday off as i cant remember the last time i had 2 days off in a row!
Max,
When I left today the front coilovers were being installed. I would assume they would be buttoned up tomorrow along with an alignment to the specs of mikes car... And then the tune... I will be back in on monday AM for pictures!
Casey
Max,
When I left today the front coilovers were being installed. I would assume they would be buttoned up tomorrow along with an alignment to the specs of mikes car... And then the tune... I will be back in on monday AM for pictures!
Casey
#24
No problem Casey, take your well deserved rest! And thanks for taking time to answer my question.
BTW, for when you get back :-), which one of your curves is compression, and which one rebound please? If I follow that rebound is usually larger than bump, then I would assume the rebound curve is actually the BOTTOM one?
BTW, for when you get back :-), which one of your curves is compression, and which one rebound please? If I follow that rebound is usually larger than bump, then I would assume the rebound curve is actually the BOTTOM one?
Last edited by cannga; 03-05-2010 at 11:22 AM.
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