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Old 10-29-2009 | 09:28 AM
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New 928 major DUD and Porsche is now VW

This is a SAD, SAD day, WTF were they thinking?
Oh wait, they weren't!
VW has scrapped the Pan, the Cayenne and they give us this:





Get ready for a blast from Porsche’s past! The German firm is developing a luxurious, front-engined grand tourer – a spiritual successor to the 928 built between 1977 and 1995. The ‘new 928’ will be a fifth model line, and is designed to sit above the sportier 911 in the range.

With the compact Boxster and Cayman, the 911, the Cayenne SUV and four-door Panamera, Porsche would appear to have most bases covered. But it’s notable for its absence in the front-engined GT segment. The newcomer will allow the brand to take on rivals such as the Ferrari 599 GTB, Bentley Continental GT and Aston Martin DB9. And our exclusive pictures show exactly why the curvy, Panamera-based coupé is set to stun the competition.

Essentially it’s a two-door, short-wheelbase version of the Panamera, which will help to spread the £1.1billion development costs of that model. Its front-engined layout has a number of inherent benefits, too.

A rear-engined 911 has barely more than 100 litres of luggage space, but a similarly sized GT with its motor up front would offer a useful 320 litres – a vital attribute if the new 928 is to be taken seriously as a grand tourer.

While the nose is virtually identical to the Panamera, the shortened wheelbase and 2+2 layout mean the 928 features far smoother lines at the back. One of the major criticisms levelled at the four-door Panamera was its bloated rear, but this model’s muscular haunches and neater proportions should attract a new wave of style-conscious customers.

As you’d expect from Porsche, though, driver appeal remains a top priority. The engine line-up will mirror that of the Panamera, so a 4.8-litre V8, with or without a turbocharger, producing 500bhp or 400bhp, will be available. The naturally aspirated variant is set to come with four or rear-wheel drive, while the range-topping turbo model will be 4WD only.

Thirsty V8s aren’t the only power units on the agenda. The Cayenne SUV hybrid is ready to go on sale next year, with a petrol-electric version of the Panamera following closely behind. As the new 928 shares the latter’s platform, it’s sure to get the hybrid drivetrain, too.

An Audi S4-sourced 369bhp 3.0-litre supercharged V6, coupled to a 38kW electric motor, will give the hybrid 928 fuel economy that breaks the 30mpg barrier. That will make it the most frugal petrol-powered Porsche ever, while still providing hair-raising performance.

The 928 will slot into Porsche’s pricing line-up somewhere between the 911 and Panamera. The four-door ranges from £70,000-£95,000, while the 911 starts a little lower, at just over £60,000, but stretches to £128,000 for the GT2.

With this is mind, expect the 928 to be pitched between £65,000 and £90,000 – enough to safely undercut its Ferrari and Aston rivals when it goes on sale in 2012.
 
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You really think VW came up with this in a matter of a few weeks?
 
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I hope I don't get slapped for saying this, but I like it.
 
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It's just Auto Express's version of what the 928 will look like.
...and it's stunning!
 
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Old 10-29-2009 | 10:18 AM
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Wow, no wonder why there are so many Ford/Aston's on the road. You go guys!
I hope VW forces every Porsche dealer to open a separate showroom for these pigs, with sawdust on the floor. I do see a ton of aftermarket options, one would be a complete body kit to hide the critical errors and delete all that crappy plastic. It's not a 928, it is a 2 door Pan.
 
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Wow, no wonder why there are so many Ford/Aston's on the road. You go guys!
I hope VW forces every Porsche dealer to open a separate showroom for these pigs, with sawdust on the floor. I do see a ton of aftermarket options, one would be a complete body kit to hide the critical errors and delete all that crappy plastic. It's not a 928, it is a 2 door Pan.
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hahahaha, my old man loves it and he drives a Cayenne but he is not a dentist.
 
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I do too, reminds me a lot of the AMV8
 
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That looks awesome!
 
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I do too, reminds me a lot of the AMV8
it is like the blend of 599 and AMV8. I do like it. It is nice if Porsche only makes 911. but I also think that the 911 will stand of its own with more models coming out of Porsche. It is an already an icon. And more people will appreciate the beauty of 911 while they are driving their Panamera, Cayenne, Boster etc. What else can we expect to see? A wagon? Oh wait, we have that, the Panemera. ; D which is growing on me by the day.
 
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I'm with you on this one Mike...I think it looks pretty good. I would have much rather seen this make it to reality then the Panamera, although after seeing the Panamera in person and on the track, I kind of like that too. Or maybe I'm just getting old...
 
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Yeah, I like it as well. A bit 6 series look but thats not a bad thing.
 
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wait i thot the tt was the gt car in the lineup
 
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If you put suicide doors for the rear, you'd have a much better looking "Panamera" than the real Panamera.
 


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