997.2 Turbo vs GTR
#16
Ditto, the GT-R needs R-comp level grip to compete with the 997.2 Turbo on plain Potenzas.
There has still been NO data to refute that the Dunlops are faster than R888's, which has been shown on occasion, at the very least as fast. That means faster than even Porsche spec Sport Cups which are only a glorified PS2.
The tire has so much grip which is why the GT-R's braking was so good. However the Turbo still burned it from a dig in the 0-60. And almost 2 seconds faster in 0-200 kph. A good tire on the Turbo and it's bye bye big bird.
The Turbo raped it in every other category but trunk space. And subjective opinions at a ball of laughs, who cares.
The Turbo is better and faster and this test proves it. End of thread.
Bye!
Last edited by heavychevy; 11-27-2009 at 11:42 PM.
#17
Self ownage. Want to guess which is the only car in this comparison on tires that are equal to R888's.
Still think the GT-R is better handling? Without those tires it would have been near last place. Even with the Bridgestones, which are still faster than all the other tires in the test.
#18
I predict 68 pages 85% heavycheavy posts HAhaa
#19
the numbers are very close ... but look at it price wise
#20
#21
Self ownage. Want to guess which is the only car in this comparison on tires that are equal to R888's.
Still think the GT-R is better handling? Without those tires it would have been near last place. Even with the Bridgestones, which are still faster than all the other tires in the test.
Add a Cobb AP to the GTR and it's game over for the 997.
#22
in about 2 months you will see 'the forum wars' on speed channel where a gtr races a turbo, so all you can finaly see the two cars in the same place/time. hopefuly that will help you guys in getting a definit answer...
anyways i'm tired, just got back from smacking around a s2k and a subaru sti in the mtn roads in my SMARTcar....gota get some rest...yawn
anyways i'm tired, just got back from smacking around a s2k and a subaru sti in the mtn roads in my SMARTcar....gota get some rest...yawn
Last edited by f1crazydriver; 11-28-2009 at 05:35 AM.
#23
The gtr is a nice car when in puberty, otherwise is just lags style!
#24
in about 2 months you will see 'the forum wars' on speed channel where a gtr races a turbo, so all you can finaly see the two cars in the same place/time. hopefuly that will help you guys in getting a definit answer...
anyways i'm tired, just got back from smacking around a s2k and a subaru sti in the mtn roads in my SMARTcar....gota get some rest...yawn
anyways i'm tired, just got back from smacking around a s2k and a subaru sti in the mtn roads in my SMARTcar....gota get some rest...yawn
#25
i had a great time trying to making sense of the words
Can't wait to get a dual-clutch transmission car so when people ask I can say doppelkupplung
Can't wait to get a dual-clutch transmission car so when people ask I can say doppelkupplung
#26
Heavy talks about the GTR tyres like they are aftermarket slicks. If the Turbos tires are so much worse than the GTR why does the car cost $60,000 more?
Either way you slice it, the GTR is AT LEAST 98% the car the turbo is, at 58% the price.
That is a disgrace.
Either way you slice it, the GTR is AT LEAST 98% the car the turbo is, at 58% the price.
That is a disgrace.
#27
I'd have thought that with massively more straightline speed the Turbo would have been able to overcome any tyre discrepancies. Not the same old arguments again hc? I thought the GTR won last time because it combined AWD with dual clutch? Maybe the driver was drifting too much in the 997?
Take away the temporary operation of the Sport Chrono and track times go back to the GTR anyway, Cup tyres or otherwise. Good straightline speed though.
Add a Cobb AP to the GTR and it's game over for the 997.
Take away the temporary operation of the Sport Chrono and track times go back to the GTR anyway, Cup tyres or otherwise. Good straightline speed though.
Add a Cobb AP to the GTR and it's game over for the 997.
It's a 1 nearly 1minute 40 second lap, the tires on the GT-R have shown to be 3 seconds faster than just the regular bridgestones in such conditionos, which have been proven to be faster than most other street tires you can buy for the GT-R. you do the math, the GT-R get's crushed if they are on anything near the similar tire. PERIOD.
Your excuse is very lame.
Cobb AP? HAHAHA even with a Cobb AP, put them on the same tires and the Turbo wins. Are you really resorting to modding the GT-R?
How pathetic...........
And by what math do you come up with 98% of the Turbo the GT-R is? At least you've accepted the inferiority, no matter by how much.
Those straws are getting harder to reach for huh?
Last edited by heavychevy; 11-28-2009 at 10:11 AM.
#28
Right, because a 911 Turbo can't be modified.
#29
I'm not making excuses. The GTR won. Excuses are the pastime of losers. More of an occupation in your case.
It doesn't need to be modded to beat a 997.2 on track. That's been shown relentlessly for 2 years. I was thinking about straightline speed, the one time it's an advantage to have the engine in the back. Fixing straightline speed is easy. Fixing flawed handling isn't. When will you and Porsche admit that the basic design of the 911 chassis is out-dated and flawed? Sure they've made the best of it but the time has come to move on and either switch to a proper MR layout or move to transaxle FR. That's the only way you'll win.
Originally Posted by The Scarecrow
Those straws are getting harder to reach for huh?
#30
Highly doubtful. What's far more likely to degrade performance is the temporary operation of the GTR's transmission / tires. But it's cute that you're suggesting the Porsche is a one-lap wonder compared to the GTR. Oh, and ironic.
Right, because a 911 Turbo can't be modified.
Right, because a 911 Turbo can't be modified.