Any opinions on Torco Race Fuel Concentrate for an octane boost. I have reservations using any fuel additives but came across this product from a TCP Racing dealer in Fla. stating that this is an excellent substitute and can be used with a racing fuel ECU tune.

 

Usually if it sounds too good to be true it probably is. They don’t tell you what exact chemicals are in these things, there is no fda for fuel additives. Some additives can harm components of your fuel system, and we're talking about a turbo, not a civic so the very small most times placebo effect isn’t worth it. I think the additive you are talking about uses Methyl cyclopentadienyl manganese tricarbonyl(MMT), which I have heard reports of fouling to spark plugs and damage to catalytic converters when used over a longer period of time. Try some unleaded race fuel from a good brand like VP. You might not feel too much of a difference even with that, so a bottle of fuel magic really isn’t going to cut it.

 

You drive a 997 Turbo. Just do it the right way and put some 100 in it!

You will notice the difference once you activate APR's 100 octane program via your cruise control switch. Have a guy up here in Charlotte with the same set up but with a race exhaust and doesn't run anything less.

 

Torco is the real deal. I and many of the supercharged / TT vette guys run it all the time. Two independents over the last couple of years posted test results showing 1 qt of Torco added to 10 gallons of 93 unleaded makes an equivalent octane of 98 - 99.

I run it in my supercharged vette most of the time and can run really aggressive ignition timing advance. I have been using it for several years. I have also seen blown / TT cars with preignition issues on the dyno add Torco and the knock disappears.

You can also get 5 gallon containers of Torco instead of the quart cans and save a lot of $$$. There is a guy on CorvetteForum named Joel who goes by JBSBLOWNC5 who is a reseller of Torco and can ship it nationwide. If you do a search on CF in the Forced Induction / Nitrous section you should find some relevant threads on it.

I have never noticed any damage of any kind from repeatedly running Torco. Plugs will turn a little orange in color as will your O2 sensors. I still run cats also. Be sure you get the kind made for unleaded and not the leaded Torco additive.

 

SUNOCO 260GT Plus , is Good

 

My car is tuned for 100octane fuel (euro octane RON not RON+MON/2)...when i race the car at high boost i always put a small amount of torco just to raise octane by 2 or 3 points so to be safe...

 

TOLUENE guys. But it at Lowes or a neighborhood hardware store. It is about 115 octane right out of the can and is what makes 93 octane 100 at the pump from Texaco, etc. Google it.

 

Too bad it attacks certain types of plastics and rubbers. I don’t know what every gasket or line is made of in a given fuel system, but if any are the certain kind, you will melt them. Use real racing fuel. If you cant afford it then maybe you should have saved some of that mod money for maintenance/running costs. This if the kind of thing that never makes sense to me. Would you put an oil additive into your beloved car? Hell no! You would use Mobil 1 like what Porsche tell you to. Not slick 50 or greased lighting or whatever.

 

Dude-
What do you think the F1 cars of the 80's used for fuel?
What additive do you think the oil companies use to increase octane ratings?

this is the VERY thing used to increase octane in gasoline.....by the guys who make gasoline. It just so happens you can also buy it over the counter in pure form.

 

It seems that the Lucas additive and the Torco go toe to toe (I believe they use MMT which is pretty good stuff for kicking up the overall octane a bit). Since I'm stuck with 91 octane, I always run a bottle of the Lucas stuff. According to this test, it should raise the AKI approx 3 numbers when used in the proper ratio.

http://volvospeed.com/Reviews/octane_boosters.html

Would I setup a race gas map and rely on it? heck no, but it seems to be decent for those stuck with crap gas

 

Dude-

I am not challenging the fact that it increases octane. All I am stating is that it is a very hard chemical that eats certain compounds and plastics. Yes, it is one of the base ingredients in gasoline. The chemists that work for companies that produce gasoline know what chemicals in what ratios are ok to mix and add according to laws, seasons, and auto manufactures recommendations. You nor I are chemists, pretty sure about that. Yes f1 cars used to run on 100% toluene, how much do those little 1.5 liter engines or their choice in fuels have to do with a 997tt? Go ahead and run high percentages of it in your car for an extended period of time. It will eat the seals in your fuel system eventually. They are not intended for fuels with high concentrations of chemicals like Xylene, Toluene or ethanol.

The small percentage gains you get from fuel additives is not worth the risk to your fuel system in my opinion. If you are smart enough and can afford a 100k + car, you should be smart enough to know performance is science/chemistry. Spending the extra couple dollars on a real high octane fuel from a reputable company is common sense. There is alot more to performance fuels then just octane.

 

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Thats what i've been doing lately, the VP station by me has 100 octane on the pump so i mix it with the crap 91 octane we have in CA sometimes 50/50 or even sometimes 2/3 91 & 1/3 100 depending on how my wallet feels it gives a nice safe boost in octane not huge but enough to make a diff.When going on a run i put in the VP 109 unleaded for high gains & high $$.

 

Yah...Toluene. Highly used in Formula Turbos.
Highly used in VW/Audi 1.8T too I ran 25PSI with the stuff in one..

Stuff definitely works for some fun and relatively cheap too in any paint store.

 

That’s the right way to do it! Vp makes some good stuff. There is a gas station a couple miles from me that has 101 at one of its pumps that is open 24/7 slide in your card and fuel away!