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Todd:
Are you guys doing the same testing on a 6spd 3.8?
I would love to see what you think the PDK will handle, but I am more interested to see what this motor is capable of and real men have 3 pedals
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Originally Posted by art4iza
That's great news bro and thanks for the info. Do they also use the same concept as the 997 GT2 plenum? I also heard that the new engines sustain much lower IAT's vs. the older ones. I really want to see your opinion on the PDK side. 1/4 Mile run and Vbox will show all of it
Yes, same style GT2 intake plenum. I will be testing the car on the road course this weekend and I will let you know.
 
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Originally Posted by JZRS4
Todd:
Are you guys doing the same testing on a 6spd 3.8?
I would love to see what you think the PDK will handle, but I am more interested to see what this motor is capable of and real men have 3 pedals
Thanks,
Jason
Yes we will be tuning the 6speed. I chose the PDK due to its higher production numbers compared to the MT cars. Also, I knew it would be harder to tune and since the PDK is a new transmission for the turbo, I better have one so I can test the limits. Now I have a car missing a 3rd pedal
 
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Originally Posted by Evolution MotorSports
I spent some time on the dyno today with the new turbo. Since this is the first time dyno testing the new platform, I spent a solid 4 hours data logging AFR, intake temps, water/oil temps, boost pressure, EGT's, etc to see how all of these variables affect the power. The car is pretty consistent in terms of power delivery but is still very temperature dependent. After about 35 dyno pulls in 3rd, 4th and 5th gear, I was able to decipher the data and get the car to make very consistent repeatable power. The highest power was ~490 AWHP and ~490 AWTQ. The average power was in the 480 Range. There was very little difference in power with or without sport mode. Overall I am VERY impressed with the power and I think that Porsche has under rated this one.

For comparison, listed below are some other stock power figures from our same AWD dyno:<O</O

997.1 TT puts down ~438 AWHP and ~431 AWTQ to the wheels
997 GT2 puts down ~476 AWHP and ~466 AWTQ to the wheels
997.2 TT DFI puts down ~490 AWHP and ~490 AWTQ to the wheels

Todd, Thanks for the initial dyno data comparison. Looks like it's very promising. Good Luck to you and the Evoms crew on the Research & Development of the new parts.
 
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Originally Posted by Rennsport-1
Todd,
Its looks like your making amazing progress with the new power plant. The numbers look great and keep up the excellent work. We look forward to seeing the dyno results. Leave it to the boys at EVO to set the bench market for the new 997.2TT tuning possibilities.

+1 on the OBDII port flashing
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You beat me to it Rennsport-1. OBDII port flashing will be a very efficient way for selling your EVOMSIT tunes. Especialy for overseas customers. I hope you get that option for all Porsche platform models very soon. Great initial power figures for having the car for a very short time at your disposal. Keep it up Todd Zuccone.
 
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Originally Posted by Evolution MotorSports
After some more fine tuning today, we are ready to begin real world testing of our stage 1 software tune. With software alone, we increased the power output by 42 AWHP and 47 AWTQ on our 2010 PDK car with 100% 91 octane fuel. We will begin street testing this week followed by track testing this weekend at Firebird main. We will be testing some other hardware components in conjunction with the software and will update the progress as we move forward. This weekend will be the first of many track events to test the limits of the new DFI engine. More details to follow.

Here is a baseline dyno vs our EVOMSit stage 1 software - tested on 91 octane fuel.


Todd, I am in love with the AWHP & AWTQ gains. The fact of having so much power and torque gains from very low engine rpm. put's a big smile on my face. That will be a Porsche's tire-smoking platform built & tuned by EVOMS. Can't wait to see the difference on higher octane fuel????
 
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I got a chance to drive this beast and its extremely smooth. PDK shifts are ridiculously quick also

Thanks again for the hospitality Todd, we'll be moving as much evomsit product in MN as possible.
 
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I got a chance to drive this beast and its extremely smooth. PDK shifts are ridiculously quick also

Thanks again for the hospitality Todd, we'll be moving as much evomsit product in MN as possible.

No problem - Anytime. Good to see you again and lets be sure to get planning for later this month
 
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60-130 MPH Time = 3.28 Seconds
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Exhaust Track Pipes
Since I will be driving the car on the track this weekend, I thought a set of track pipes were in order. To hear the car on the track, the muffler had to go for now. Today we removed the intercoolers, rear bumper and exhaust system. Tomorrow we will fabricate a set of track pipes with a pair of HJS 200 cell motorsport catalysts. This is something that we will be offering for those who are wanting the most sound out of their 997TT DFI. I will post more photos tomorrow after the fabrication is complete. Here are some photos of the new "log style" exhaust headers and OEM muffler / Catalyst system.









 
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Nice pictures and grab some video of the exhaust I'm really looking forward to the headers your boy is off the hook when it comes to those... Got a set of the gt ones for an evt700 car today.
 
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Nice pictures and grab some video of the exhaust I'm really looking forward to the headers your boy is off the hook when it comes to those... Got a set of the gt ones for an evt700 car today.
The headers are different than the 996/997TT. In fact, everything is different including the placement of the turbos. Porsche is funny, they made things slightly different so none of the items from the other models would fit.
 
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seems like Porsche is seriously understating the power of this new motor. Interesting
 
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seems like Porsche is seriously understating the power of this new motor. Interesting
It seems so.
 
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60-130 MPH Time = 3.28 Seconds
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Originally Posted by Evolution MotorSports
It seems so.
Below are the measured acceleration times by Sport Auto mag for the 997tt.2.
0-200kph is 10.8s so the thing is in rude health !
200-300kph takes 31.1s
The 480PS 997tt.1 has been extensively tested at around 28.5s for 200-300kph....

So the 480PS 997tt.1 is 2.6s faster 200-300kph than the 500PS 997tt.2 despite the .2 having 2 PDK shifts on the way to help it...

WTF is going on with your dyno, are you not loading it enough or something

0-100 km/h:
3.1 s - Porsche 997.2 Turbo PDK, 500 PS/1606 kg
3.2 s - Lamborghini Murcielago LP 670-4 SV, 670 PS/1751 kg
3.9 s - Gumpert Apollo, 700 PS/1148 kg
3.9 s - Koenisgegg CCX-R, 806 PS/1473 kg
3.9 s - Wiesmann GT MF5, 507 PS/1421 kg
4.0 s - Porsche GT3, 435 PS/1453 kg
4.5 s - Aston Martin V12 Vantage, 517 PS/1709 kg
4.7 s - Cadillac CTS-V, 564 PS/1955 kg
0-200 km/h:
9.5 s - Gumpert Apollo, 700 PS/1148 kg
9.8 s - Koenigsegg CCX-R, 806 PS/1473 kg
10.3s - Lamborghini Murcielago LP 670-4 SV, 670 PS/1751 kg
10.8s - Porsche 997.2 Turbo PDK, 500 PS/1606 kg
11.6s - Wiesmann GT MF5, 507 PS/1421 kg
12.8s - Porsche GT3, 435 PS/1453 kg
14.0s - Aston Martin V12 Vantage, 517 PS/1709 kg
14.3s - Cadillac CTS-V, 564 PS/1955 kg
0-300 km/h:
24.7s - Koenigsegg CCX-R, 806 PS/1473 kg
26.7s - Gumpert Apollo, 700 PS/1148 kg
29.7s - Lamborghini Murcielago LP 670-4 SV, 670 PS/1751 kg
40.6s - Wiesmann GT MF5, 507 PS/1421 kg
41.9s - Porsche 997.2 Turbo PDK, 500 PS/1606 kg
50.3s - Porsche GT3, 435 PS/1453 kg
53.7s - Aston Martin V12 Vantage, 517 PS/1709 kg
69.3s - Cadillac CTS-V, 564 PS/1955 kg
 
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