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will the Porsche tt beat the Gallardo tt one day ?

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Old 03-10-2010 | 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by milou
You're absolutely wrong, i bet this car can be used in daily basis without any problems, i used to have a 500whp turbocharged Hayabusa which was my daily bike, you just select a different frogram, drop or eliminate boost and then a girl can drive it
absolutely wrong? because someone has a different opinion than you. Do you have a 1kwhp car?
rthe busa is a straight line bike stock. A GSXr 1000 will kill it on a road course, then you double the power. So now you can go from running 9's to 8's. I think it is great that some push the limits. A girl can drive it? yes, even on low power cars like that will still have 600 whp. Hit the throttle a little to hard on an onramp and see what happens to that girl who didn't expect it.
 
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absolutely wrong? because someone has a different opinion than you. Do you have a 1kwhp car?
rthe busa is a straight line bike stock. A GSXr 1000 will kill it on a road course, then you double the power. So now you can go from running 9's to 8's. I think it is great that some push the limits. A girl can drive it? yes, even on low power cars like that will still have 600 whp. Hit the throttle a little to hard on an onramp and see what happens to that girl who didn't expect it.
You are far away from reality, an inexperience driver "girl" can crash with a stock EVO. Anyway this is not the point the point is that 1000whp cars can be driven everyday as you said by dropping the power a little. My girl drives my Porsche by the time it was stock and she cannot see the difference because she drives it the same way she drives her B class.
 
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A TT Gallardo ran 20mph faster than that twin turbo at the mile last year.
There are a few other 996TT's that are faster than that "1200 hp" car.
TTG's are pretty hard to beat. Will just a couple of years of R&D they were able to get this car into the low 9's, to trap at 170mph+ and to run 241 in the mile. It's a great platform. It's easy to say that you can build something to beat it, but doing it is another thing.
 
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Originally Posted by milou
You are far away from reality, an inexperience driver "girl" can crash with a stock EVO. Anyway this is not the point the point is that 1000whp cars can be driven everyday as you said by dropping the power a little. My girl drives my Porsche by the time it was stock and she cannot see the difference because she drives it the same way she drives her B class.

uhhh, no you are far from reality, thinking that the average person can handle even 600 whp. Read threads about the deaths in very powerful cars that went out of control because the driver could not control the power. It happens all the time. The owner of TAPOUT, a cgt owner here and many more. Is your turbo stock? or close to it? sure she can handle that. Road course training is great for anyone with a powerful car. But there are few road courses that can handle cars with 1000 bhp+ and 3500 lbs of weight, with little additional downforce to keep them planted during elevation changes.
 
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Originally Posted by Prche951
uhhh, no you are far from reality, thinking that the average person can handle even 600 whp. Read threads about the deaths in very powerful cars that went out of control because the driver could not control the power. It happens all the time. The owner of TAPOUT, a cgt owner here and many more. Is your turbo stock? or close to it? sure she can handle that. Road course training is great for anyone with a powerful car. But there are few road courses that can handle cars with 1000 bhp+ and 3500 lbs of weight, with little additional downforce to keep them planted during elevation changes.
Depends on how the person is driving it. If it's the wife driving back and forth picking up groceries, I don't think it really matters if the car is 300whp or 600whp. I let my girlfriend drive my CTS-V which is around 570rwhp or so (rough estimate). She has absolutely no problem going into town, going to school, etc. This is because she drives like a normal person, doesn't break the law, and never goes more than 1/3 throttle. I instructed her never to hit the gas hard and she listens.

Just depends on the driver's responsibility and driving style. If the driver has no desire to play around with it then you're fine. If the driver has a heavy foot then yeah, there could obviously be some serious problems.

Anywayyy back on topic: a Porsche that weighs more than the Gallardo and has less power shouldn't be able to beat the Gallardo on the mile. The Porsche would need superior gearing, weight, aero, and power to beat it. It doesn't have this as of yet. But anybody with money can take a Carrera GT and turn it into a drag strip beast, I guess.
 
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The point is that turbocharging a Galiardo does not mean you destroy it or changing it to a Dragster as you said. It can be driven as if it was stock. Now if the driver will be cabable of driving it its a different story
 
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Originally Posted by milou
The point is that turbocharging a Galiardo does not mean you destroy it or changing it to a Dragster as you said. It can be driven as if it was stock. Now if the driver will be cabable of driving it its a different story

I'll agree with you there.

There are many very good drivers on these forums and even they had trouble running the mile. Look at the spinouts in the mile. For what it's worth I don't see how a Turbo could ever beat a TT Gallardo. There is a difference of at least 1 liter in engine size. That would break down into an additional 300 whp. I think a TT can get close. But not beat it. but we will see. Enough money, time, and the willingness to turn up the psi at risk of blowing an engine can give incredible numbers.

The big question will be whether the Gallardo can reach the Supra. So far the supra still is the fastest in the mile. The difference is that the supra is being taken to crazy psi levels, which I am not sure P-car owners or Lambo owners want to go to.
 
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I think the GTT's can beat the Supras in the mile. The 1/4 mile is a different story. They are only 5mph away from the record in the mile with, again, only a couple of years of R&D. The Supras have been around for almost 20 years. The G is just a great platform for more power over stock. At 1200whp, it's still a street car that can be driven around with no problems. There are not many 1200whp cars that can.
And don't forget about the mid 3 second 60-130's that they have run.
 
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Originally Posted by LUISGT3
I think the GTT's can beat the Supras in the mile. The 1/4 mile is a different story. They are only 5mph away from the record in the mile with, again, only a couple of years of R&D. The Supras have been around for almost 20 years. The G is just a great platform for more power over stock. At 1200whp, it's still a street car that can be driven around with no problems. There are not many 1200whp cars that can.
And don't forget about the mid 3 second 60-130's that they have run.

no doubt that the G is a much more streetable car than the supra at the same power level. the mid 3 60-130's are incredible. Time will tell how far the G will go.
 
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Originally Posted by Prche951
The big question will be whether the Gallardo can reach the Supra. So far the supra still is the fastest in the mile. The difference is that the supra is being taken to crazy psi levels, which I am not sure P-car owners or Lambo owners want to go to.
The Supra can be taken even further than the current mile efforts in unlimited form as well. I've yet to see a Gallardo engine pushed to 70+ lbs of boost like the 2JZ, or 10k RPMs, anyone want to foot the bill to try that one.

Also as far as 60-130 times are concerned, for thought, we're doing 0-189 in 7.6 seconds, I wonder what the 60-130 time would be ?

The Gallardos are great machines, however there is still a bit of development and testing to be completed to be truly reliable in a racing environment, that being said the mile is a true test for just about any engine / platform period.
 
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Im surprised no one has brought the vipers into this either considering a Heffner Viper just ran a 7.47 @ 199.4 in the 1/4 a couple weeks ago....And that was considered a street car too!
 
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Im surprised no one has brought the vipers into this either considering a Heffner Viper just ran a 7.47 @ 199.4 in the 1/4 a couple weeks ago....And that was considered a street car too!
Aerodynamics kill them at the mile from what past results have shown.
 
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Im surprised no one has brought the vipers into this either considering a Heffner Viper just ran a 7.47 @ 199.4 in the 1/4 a couple weeks ago....And that was considered a street car too!

It sould run on drag tires, on street or semi tires it would loose 2-3 seconds on the 1/4 mile.

This is the great difference of the turbocharged Viper or Ford GT, as we have seen on Moscow unlim 1100hp turbocharged Ford GT was busted by Switzer 997 turbo using modded VTG's on 1/4 mile. It also had a difficult time catching him on the mile
 
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The G with it's additional displacement is a huge hurtle for the TT. The only game changer I foresee is when/if A LOT more boost is used in the Porsche ala the Supra. I don't know of anyone who has used more than 30-35 lb. of boost in their Porsche yet.
 


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