997 Turbo / GT2 2006–2012 Turbo discussion on the 997 model Porsche 911 Twin Turbo.

530hp 997SC: Looking for legal race with a TT

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
  #1  
Old 04-05-2010 | 10:45 PM
Cattman's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Registered User
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,953
From: ATL
Rep Power: 199
Cattman Is a GOD !Cattman Is a GOD !Cattman Is a GOD !Cattman Is a GOD !Cattman Is a GOD !Cattman Is a GOD !Cattman Is a GOD !Cattman Is a GOD !Cattman Is a GOD !Cattman Is a GOD !Cattman Is a GOD !
530hp 997SC: Looking for legal race with a TT

Hi Folks,
While I am new to the 6speed 997TT/GT2 sub-forum, I am a respected and polite gentleman well-known on the 997 pages.

I've got a 530HP 997SC (supercharged, it started as a 2005 997s). This daily driver has 50k miles on it, and depending on the day, my child's car seat and a dozen soccer *****.

I'd like to find a legal way of testing my car vs a stock 997TT for the following:
-5-60mph
-0-125mph
-quarter mile time and trap

If there is anyone near Atlanta, who is interested and has some ideas about where we might conduct these tests, please let me know here AND via PM. Perhaps Road Atlanta or PSDS in Birmingham?
Thanks.
CATTMAN
 
  #2  
Old 04-05-2010 | 10:50 PM
bbywu's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 10,778
From: OR Room 5
Rep Power: 1006
bbywu Is a GOD !bbywu Is a GOD !bbywu Is a GOD !bbywu Is a GOD !bbywu Is a GOD !bbywu Is a GOD !bbywu Is a GOD !bbywu Is a GOD !bbywu Is a GOD !bbywu Is a GOD !bbywu Is a GOD !
You could also consider doing a few 60-130 runs on a pbox to get a pretty good comparison against other cars here:

https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...mile-list.html

If you find someone to run against, try and get a hold of a GPS data logger...this ought to be interesting
 

Last edited by bbywu; 04-05-2010 at 10:55 PM.
  #3  
Old 04-05-2010 | 11:05 PM
Cattman's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Registered User
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,953
From: ATL
Rep Power: 199
Cattman Is a GOD !Cattman Is a GOD !Cattman Is a GOD !Cattman Is a GOD !Cattman Is a GOD !Cattman Is a GOD !Cattman Is a GOD !Cattman Is a GOD !Cattman Is a GOD !Cattman Is a GOD !Cattman Is a GOD !
Thanks, but I had something slightly less subjective in mind.

To be clear: I have great reverence for the 997TT. It's possible that the latest version will become legendary- I hope it is, as I'm ordering one!

That said, there's no lack of folks modding their 997's to try to compete in line with a 997TT.

I am hoping to find people with 997TT's who are willing to run in a line against variously modified 997's on a strip, track, etc., over several runs to be averaged, neutralizing conditions and measurement calibration techniques.

The 997TT is incredible, I love it. But I want to know this: can a 997SC match or top it due to lighter weight and no lag? I know I have more power, but can I lay it down with just RWD? I, and others, want to find out!
CATTMAN
 
  #4  
Old 04-05-2010 | 11:11 PM
justatoy's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 2,370
From: Vancouver
Rep Power: 327
justatoy Is a GOD !justatoy Is a GOD !justatoy Is a GOD !justatoy Is a GOD !justatoy Is a GOD !justatoy Is a GOD !justatoy Is a GOD !justatoy Is a GOD !justatoy Is a GOD !justatoy Is a GOD !justatoy Is a GOD !
SUBSCRIBED..........




Stacy
 
  #5  
Old 04-06-2010 | 12:57 AM
pureretro's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 118
From: palo alto
Rep Power: 20
pureretro is infamous around these parts
Originally Posted by Cattman
Hi Folks,
While I am new to the 6speed 997TT/GT2 sub-forum, I am a respected and polite gentleman well-known on the 997 pages.

I've got a 530HP 997SC (supercharged, it started as a 2005 997s). This daily driver has 50k miles on it, and depending on the day, my child's car seat and a dozen soccer *****.

I'd like to find a legal way of testing my car vs a stock 997TT for the following:
-5-60mph
-0-125mph
-quarter mile time and trap

If there is anyone near Atlanta, who is interested and has some ideas about where we might conduct these tests, please let me know here AND via PM. Perhaps Road Atlanta or PSDS in Birmingham?
Thanks.
CATTMAN
I am supportive of that statement where he claims to be a "respected and polite gentleman". Now, I'm curious as to whether this same gentleman is capable of hacking up a 997S to 997TT standards.
 
  #6  
Old 04-06-2010 | 01:12 AM
TTdude's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 2,319
From: Fastlane USA
Rep Power: 245
TTdude Is a GOD !TTdude Is a GOD !TTdude Is a GOD !TTdude Is a GOD !TTdude Is a GOD !TTdude Is a GOD !TTdude Is a GOD !TTdude Is a GOD !TTdude Is a GOD !TTdude Is a GOD !TTdude Is a GOD !
Originally Posted by Cattman
Thanks, but I had something slightly less subjective in mind.

To be clear: I have great reverence for the 997TT. It's possible that the latest version will become legendary- I hope it is, as I'm ordering one!

That said, there's no lack of folks modding their 997's to try to compete in line with a 997TT.

I am hoping to find people with 997TT's who are willing to run in a line against variously modified 997's on a strip, track, etc., over several runs to be averaged, neutralizing conditions and measurement calibration techniques.

The 997TT is incredible, I love it. But I want to know this: can a 997SC match or top it due to lighter weight and no lag? I know I have more power, but can I lay it down with just RWD? I, and others, want to find out!
CATTMAN
"Less subjective" than GPS data logging
 
  #7  
Old 04-06-2010 | 03:56 AM
MishaDesigns's Avatar
Former Vendor
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 2,139
From: SOCAL
Rep Power: 0
MishaDesigns has a reputation beyond reputeMishaDesigns has a reputation beyond reputeMishaDesigns has a reputation beyond reputeMishaDesigns has a reputation beyond reputeMishaDesigns has a reputation beyond reputeMishaDesigns has a reputation beyond reputeMishaDesigns has a reputation beyond reputeMishaDesigns has a reputation beyond reputeMishaDesigns has a reputation beyond reputeMishaDesigns has a reputation beyond reputeMishaDesigns has a reputation beyond repute
How long have you had the Supercharger on there for?
 
  #8  
Old 04-06-2010 | 07:27 AM
bonehead's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 3,191
From: Texas
Rep Power: 341
bonehead Is a GOD !bonehead Is a GOD !bonehead Is a GOD !bonehead Is a GOD !bonehead Is a GOD !bonehead Is a GOD !bonehead Is a GOD !bonehead Is a GOD !bonehead Is a GOD !bonehead Is a GOD !bonehead Is a GOD !
Agree with ttdude. How exactly is GPS data subjective?

Not to knock your challenge, as I do hope you find someone, but what does a TT owner have to gain from this but satisfy your curiosity? You have everything to gain and nothing to lose and a TT owner has the exact opposite. Am I looking at this wrong?
 
  #9  
Old 04-06-2010 | 07:46 AM
ItalianStallion's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 374
From: New York
Rep Power: 51
ItalianStallion has a brilliant futureItalianStallion has a brilliant futureItalianStallion has a brilliant futureItalianStallion has a brilliant futureItalianStallion has a brilliant futureItalianStallion has a brilliant futureItalianStallion has a brilliant futureItalianStallion has a brilliant futureItalianStallion has a brilliant futureItalianStallion has a brilliant futureItalianStallion has a brilliant future
Pbox data is probably your best bet brother. That, and maybe take it to a 1/4 mile track. I am sure there are events where 997TT's will be present. Perhaps take it to one of those events and run it on the same day a 997TT is running so you can get a good comparison. I think GPS logging is the best way to measure your car's actual speed and to compare it with other cars, IMHO.

You have a very unique car and I'm sure the characteristics are much different than a 997TT's.
 
  #10  
Old 04-06-2010 | 09:00 AM
milou's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 1,778
From: Cyprus
Rep Power: 110
milou has a reputation beyond reputemilou has a reputation beyond reputemilou has a reputation beyond reputemilou has a reputation beyond reputemilou has a reputation beyond reputemilou has a reputation beyond reputemilou has a reputation beyond reputemilou has a reputation beyond reputemilou has a reputation beyond reputemilou has a reputation beyond reputemilou has a reputation beyond repute
Actually you should race a tt with Exhaust/ECU to have equal power, to my guess you will watch its hips all the way,
 
  #11  
Old 04-06-2010 | 12:56 PM
Cattman's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Registered User
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,953
From: ATL
Rep Power: 199
Cattman Is a GOD !Cattman Is a GOD !Cattman Is a GOD !Cattman Is a GOD !Cattman Is a GOD !Cattman Is a GOD !Cattman Is a GOD !Cattman Is a GOD !Cattman Is a GOD !Cattman Is a GOD !Cattman Is a GOD !
Originally Posted by bonehead
Agree with ttdude. How exactly is GPS data subjective?

Not to knock your challenge, as I do hope you find someone, but what does a TT owner have to gain from this but satisfy your curiosity? You have everything to gain and nothing to lose and a TT owner has the exact opposite. Am I looking at this wrong?
I suppose you are right.
The TT, particularly the new one, is such a well conmposed masterpiece, I know there's no way a hacked up 997SC can be as "whole" as either a GT3 or a TT, but I remain interested in knowing what gap might exist in terms of comparative straight-line acceleration: a drag strip.

And sure, GTech data is reliable, I've used it myself, and trust it. Looks like no takers, so I'll just have to wait until I buy a TT and test them head to head on my own.

In the meantime, perhaps someone in ATL would be willing to meet up and give me a ride in their TT so I can at least try to subjectively feel any difference from the passenger seat?
CATTMAN
 
  #12  
Old 04-06-2010 | 12:59 PM
Cattman's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Registered User
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,953
From: ATL
Rep Power: 199
Cattman Is a GOD !Cattman Is a GOD !Cattman Is a GOD !Cattman Is a GOD !Cattman Is a GOD !Cattman Is a GOD !Cattman Is a GOD !Cattman Is a GOD !Cattman Is a GOD !Cattman Is a GOD !Cattman Is a GOD !
Originally Posted by 996wings
How long have you had the Supercharger on there for?
Hi Misha,
I've been running the SC for 2,500 miles. Your GT2M wing looks awesome on it, here's a pic- I owe you some good ones after my next detail!
CATTMAN
 
Attached Images  
  #13  
Old 04-06-2010 | 01:47 PM
justatoy's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 2,370
From: Vancouver
Rep Power: 327
justatoy Is a GOD !justatoy Is a GOD !justatoy Is a GOD !justatoy Is a GOD !justatoy Is a GOD !justatoy Is a GOD !justatoy Is a GOD !justatoy Is a GOD !justatoy Is a GOD !justatoy Is a GOD !justatoy Is a GOD !
Originally Posted by pureretro
I am supportive of that statement where he claims to be a "respected and polite gentleman". Now, I'm curious as to whether this same gentleman is capable of hacking up a 997S to 997TT standards.
LOL...no hacking required(NONE).......

It actually is a really nice(alot of work for sure)...install.
Pretty 'BRILLIANT' to the eyes too,when you open the decklid,LOL!

IMO...I think it would be a good run with a stock 997TT,better than alot of people might think!


Stacy
 
  #14  
Old 04-06-2010 | 01:49 PM
bbywu's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 10,778
From: OR Room 5
Rep Power: 1006
bbywu Is a GOD !bbywu Is a GOD !bbywu Is a GOD !bbywu Is a GOD !bbywu Is a GOD !bbywu Is a GOD !bbywu Is a GOD !bbywu Is a GOD !bbywu Is a GOD !bbywu Is a GOD !bbywu Is a GOD !
I have seen a few SC setups on the 997. They were very well done. Forced induction in the 997 is not a hack...many tuners including Ruf offer a setup...anyone who thinks they are a hack or joke hasn't driven in one.

Cattman...if you're ever in Wisconsin, I know a few private drives that we can go test the limits.

- bob
 
  #15  
Old 04-06-2010 | 01:53 PM
bbywu's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 10,778
From: OR Room 5
Rep Power: 1006
bbywu Is a GOD !bbywu Is a GOD !bbywu Is a GOD !bbywu Is a GOD !bbywu Is a GOD !bbywu Is a GOD !bbywu Is a GOD !bbywu Is a GOD !bbywu Is a GOD !bbywu Is a GOD !bbywu Is a GOD !
And on another note - if you do find someone to run, please post a datalog...you'd be the first SC'ed 997 on the 60-130 list, and I'm fairly certain the numbers would be impressive.
 


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:39 PM.