Softronic Software Criticism
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzeLcvgOVzQ
and Evomsit was the first company to have software for the dfi 2009 cars and we did it here in California in October of 2008 (a full year before most):
http://sharkwerks.com/porsche/techni...re-tuning.html
Last edited by sharkster; 04-30-2010 at 02:39 PM.
#154
Cool video! You guys are state-of-the-art for sure. My curiosity harkins back to a comment Softronic said about there being some sort "basis program" they have developed on original Bosch programming by which he evidently supplies to tuners who utilize this program to do their tuning. How does Evoms do it? Since they don't utilize Softronic's services, then do they develop their own "basis program"? TIA.
#155
Cool video! You guys are state-of-the-art for sure. My curiosity harkins back to a comment Softronic said about there being some sort "basis program" they have developed on original Bosch programming by which he evidently supplies to tuners who utilize this program to do their tuning. How does Evoms do it? Since they don't utilize Softronic's services, then do they develop their own "basis program"? TIA.
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I still say a 2nd DME means INNOCENT until proven guilty.. A stereo shop fried it while installing a stereo back there.. they paid for it so i didnt bother with warranty.. Keep the ECU, stick magnets to it, ruin it however you want but hand it over as proof..
Mike
Mike
#158
I still say a 2nd DME means INNOCENT until proven guilty.. A stereo shop fried it while installing a stereo back there.. they paid for it so i didnt bother with warranty.. Keep the ECU, stick magnets to it, ruin it however you want but hand it over as proof..
Mike
Mike
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No worries TTdude. Work can be done any number of ways. You can work with what you have already. Indeed you can reverse engineer it. The EVOMSit folks can do either/or
There's some more public info here: http://www.evomsit.com/Services.htm
And: http://www.evomsit.com/Company.htm
Either way I just feel bad for folks suckered in by claims of "modifications to an ECU being undetectable" etc... Too bad for them
There's some more public info here: http://www.evomsit.com/Services.htm
And: http://www.evomsit.com/Company.htm
Either way I just feel bad for folks suckered in by claims of "modifications to an ECU being undetectable" etc... Too bad for them
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I have to agree. If this is really true, then they should put their money where their mouth is and give a money back guarantee that their modifications are undetecatable. This wouldn't help a warranty claim but at least it is something with a little substance over just faith.
#164
I think it does all goes back to the one post that you highlighted and the word was "Ignorant".
Softronic was the first to OBD flash the DFI and also the 2010 Turbo so no removal is required. While we could have taken them out and done so it was in the customers best interest not to. I wouldn't want to sell a product early just for sales knowing it was an issue. We can also alter anything in either set of chips remotely without a customer having to send a DME in or re visit a Dealer etc. We have many first and make things that other tuners simply cant. I guess if they could then they would all be flashing via the port and doing what we can..
Perhaps some of the other experts could post at what points they are detectable since they know? What screen or section on the PIWIS shows this or how it is shown? This is what the Dealer would be using unless a Pano or 997 DFI Turbo. We all know a tuned file is period. I should know since I'm the guy checking them.
To be correct it could be a DME that had a tune and it was then re written with a PIWIS. Now lets take out the given 1 write index and the fact that the binary has written the extra string in the 29F800 or processor. The PIWIS would not show the strings anyways.
So now at what point is the new PIWIS original write going to show the old Tuned file that was in it? Granted the PIWIS does not write the original Porsche one it came with yet it is an original. Since I cant show people what would not exist perhaps they can show what they are saying does?
Best ,
Scott
Last edited by Softronic; 04-30-2010 at 04:58 PM.
#165
Where does Softronic do all the tuning, the tools, car, location, dyno, etc..? Or do they share those maps/tune files from Proto and others?