Cup tire question pls: Pirelli vs. Michelin -- which one has softer ride?
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Cup tire question pls: Pirelli vs. Michelin -- which one has softer ride?
After all the "talk," think I'd better try the tires myself. For the summer I plan to install either Pirelli Corso or Michelin Cup. Questions please:
1. For those who have had both Pirelli and Michelin: which one has the softer ride? And which one is more quiet?
2. What pressures do you run front and rear for street driving? Is it at a range that will trigger a TPMS low pressure alarm? If so, what do you do to turn it off?
3. I've read repeated comments that Pirelli is better in the wet than Michelin. True? (I do plan to switch to the regular street tire after the summer, when it starts raining here in Southern Cal.)
4. Any difference between Michelin NO and N1?
Car is primarily street use, with weekend drives in canyon roads at a little higher speed. Any advice would be welcome (Not the type the says "don't use it" though. LOL) & thanks in advance.
1. For those who have had both Pirelli and Michelin: which one has the softer ride? And which one is more quiet?
2. What pressures do you run front and rear for street driving? Is it at a range that will trigger a TPMS low pressure alarm? If so, what do you do to turn it off?
3. I've read repeated comments that Pirelli is better in the wet than Michelin. True? (I do plan to switch to the regular street tire after the summer, when it starts raining here in Southern Cal.)
4. Any difference between Michelin NO and N1?
Car is primarily street use, with weekend drives in canyon roads at a little higher speed. Any advice would be welcome (Not the type the says "don't use it" though. LOL) & thanks in advance.
Last edited by cannga; 04-13-2010 at 11:34 AM.
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I love the Michelin PSCs...no complaints at all. I know Alex(Sharky) also likes the Corsas. Can't go wrong with either. But if you're not going to track the car, I suggest to spend the money on other stuff. These tires are not exactly cheap, you know.
By design, the Cups have stiffer sidewalls and have more of a square stance vs PS2s....just fyi.
By design, the Cups have stiffer sidewalls and have more of a square stance vs PS2s....just fyi.
#6
eclou, why are you switching to Pirelli please? TIA.
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I run PS2's on the street and RE-11's for track use but I may switch to RE-11's for all around use. Driving them out to the track they seem to really perform well, are fairly quiet, and ride really nice.
They MAY not be quite as good as the others, but at half the price for MSC's or Corsa's they are well worth the price.
Just saying...
They MAY not be quite as good as the others, but at half the price for MSC's or Corsa's they are well worth the price.
Just saying...
#11
I run PS2's on the street and RE-11's for track use but I may switch to RE-11's for all around use. Driving them out to the track they seem to really perform well, are fairly quiet, and ride really nice.
They MAY not be quite as good as the others, but at half the price for MSC's or Corsa's they are well worth the price.
Just saying...
They MAY not be quite as good as the others, but at half the price for MSC's or Corsa's they are well worth the price.
Just saying...
Michelin Cup: front 20 rear 27
Pirelli Corsa: front 21 rear 26
Bridgestone Potenza RE-11: front 27 rear 32
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/TireSe...=58154&tab=All
Last edited by cannga; 04-13-2010 at 05:37 PM.
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What is the best tire pressure front and rear for track use with MPSC N0?
I have cups n0 for track use right now,but i will try the new pirelli trofeo once they are available.
RE11s seems to be the best tires for the money,however,they are a lot heavier than cups,which is not ideal for light weight track rim/tire combo. The dry traction is close to cups,but still not there yet.
Nevertheless, RE11s are excellent tires for weekend drives in canyon roads! Better than PS2s on street,but not quite as good as cups on track.
I have cups n0 for track use right now,but i will try the new pirelli trofeo once they are available.
RE11s seems to be the best tires for the money,however,they are a lot heavier than cups,which is not ideal for light weight track rim/tire combo. The dry traction is close to cups,but still not there yet.
Nevertheless, RE11s are excellent tires for weekend drives in canyon roads! Better than PS2s on street,but not quite as good as cups on track.
Last edited by freeman; 04-13-2010 at 05:16 PM.
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Here's a link to Michelin's document on PSC tire pressure (and other PSC topics):
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete...nd_Feeding.pdf
I've had one tech tell me that his company ran all their PSCs at 38 hot (track). I think the above document says to run at 34/36 hot and that cold should be around 6 psi less. Keep in mind that you'll heat your tires far more on the track than you ever will on the street. My notes on the topic for street for my Rt12 were to have cold at 30/31.
I've never loved the PSC and will probably try the Corsa's, if I can find them (hmm, for the first time since I've been checking, TireRack shows them as in stock).
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete...nd_Feeding.pdf
I've had one tech tell me that his company ran all their PSCs at 38 hot (track). I think the above document says to run at 34/36 hot and that cold should be around 6 psi less. Keep in mind that you'll heat your tires far more on the track than you ever will on the street. My notes on the topic for street for my Rt12 were to have cold at 30/31.
I've never loved the PSC and will probably try the Corsa's, if I can find them (hmm, for the first time since I've been checking, TireRack shows them as in stock).
#14
The cups will tend to get loud after some miles, great street track tire IMO. I have the RE11 for daily use, they are heavier but the price is right. That said I'll switch back to cups next time around.
#15
TPMS needs dealer ECU setting to be switched off.