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Originally Posted by skandalis447
I havent seen any APR client not happy so far...At least they dont write here...Well,our pump gas is not the best and the main reason for our performance is the tune itself...At the end this has to be understood here...When there was only my car flashed some fellow members were a bit skeptical about it...But we have two cars now...So its not a coinsidence...
P.S. about Salias,he is a well known tuner (ECU) here...Together we ve built many P cars inclding my previous 996TT that run 6,32 verified 60-130 with 18g turbos...some years ago...
Take ur time and search in the forum.


Ur car w/APR tune and exhaust on pumpgas ran quicker than many U.S tuner modded vtg's on racegas.

Most of modded vtg's ran mid 10's@ mid 130's

According to USP motorsport ( U.S tuner ) his 997tt made 569WHP APR Flash 11.13@127 and he was on racegas!!!!!!
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...-software.html

What do u think??

Regarding Salias...My point is that he still can offer a tune for stock 997tt which make it quicker than low-mid 600whp modded vtg's

There is almost 80-90awhp between APR tune vs modded vtg's and u recently claimed that madsex car ran 200-295 in 13's on pumpgas

Do u know that 997tt low 700awhp w/GT3071R's on HIGH BOOST ran 200-300 in 11's

What is ur 200-300 will be if u ran racegas???
 
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I plan to get back to you in the next days regarding racegas...
On the other hand,facts are facts and i am not responsible that other tuners can not create a faster car with even modded VTGs...I am extremely happy with APR tune and same is Kostas...It would be better for other tuners to try and beat APR tune...
USP car is manual?If i recall correct it is...Tips have a better 1/4 but i havent tried my car yet...
P.S. Dont get me wrong but we have a few excellent tuners here...Especialy when focused on DME tuning...
Also USP has only flash...no exhaust...so add a few ponnies here for a good 3inch 100cell system...
 

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Originally Posted by skandalis447
I plan to get back to you in the next days regarding racegas...
On the other hand,facts are facts and i am not responsible that other tuners can not create a faster car with even modded VTGs...I am extremely happy with APR tune and same is Kostas...It would be better for other tuners to try and beat APR tune...
USP car is manual?If i recall correct it is...Tips have a better 1/4 but i havent tried my car yet...
P.S. Dont get me wrong but we have a few excellent tuners here...Especialy when focused on DME tuning...
Also USP has only flash...no exhaust...so add a few ponnies here for a good 3inch 100cell system...
I know u r happy with APR tune but we r try to understand

So if chris/USP add 100cell exhaust will shave 0.5-0.6sec and gain 8-9 mile in 1/4 mile???

Chris/USP 997tt shpuld be quicker than urs + madsex since he is using racegas and he is still slower than 6speed modded vtg's below

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIPwtaYUkxY

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skandalis447 .. you have great car am sure from that ..
but to be honest i tried APR on my car

apr tune + exhaust

i felt a small Difference but not much like you .. all what i saw in the dash steady 15 psi wot .. i raced my friend vette c6 (tune+headers) he was in front of me by 3 cars !!! i was not happy with apr so i switched to softronic and ran the same exhaust .. i felt big Difference and i wanted to besure from that so i raced my friend with his vette again i pulled him from the start by 2 cars and pulling away from him ... he said to me what did you do to your car .. its monster now wooooow !!!

this is my experience with apr ...

am not trying to underestimate APR .. they are great forsure ..

my friend skandalis447 .. i would like to ask you please to send me your data logs by PM .. i would like to see it

good luck with with your ride

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Originally Posted by Shotcaller
Congratulations for awesome ran!!

Lately i noticed that there some cars ( including ur current ran ) ran more than 0.8-1sec when we compare 100-200 to 60-130.

In ur ran the differance is almost 1.5sec

Quickest 6speed modded vtg's ran 100-200 5.7sec ( which is slower than ur car ) and the 60-130 6.6sec ( which is quicker than ur car ).

Couple of Q for u

1- There plenty of happy and unhappy 997tt's with same ur tune and they never get like ur results...What do u think??

2- In ur sig

Matte Grey 997tt 09, APR tune/Europipe EP2 100-200kmh:5.59sec..60-130 7.09
Jet black 997tt 08, Salias tune/Switzer exhaust 60-130mph: 7.18sec

The 2nd car has local tune or what???
I believe Skandalis and TTdude where rigfht on the money with their answers, but if I can anayze further pls let me know... Thanks
 
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Originally Posted by MBailey
Madsex,
You could try slightly larger tires next time you change them. This might get you above 130 at the top of fourth without moving the limiter.
Yes yes ... I have thought about that too... But on the other hand we could do a 60-140mph contest if you would like or even 60-150-160 etc.... where it would make no difference...
 
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Originally Posted by Shotcaller
Take ur time and search in the forum.


Ur car w/APR tune and exhaust on pumpgas ran quicker than many U.S tuner modded vtg's on racegas.

Most of modded vtg's ran mid 10's@ mid 130's

According to USP motorsport ( U.S tuner ) his 997tt made 569WHP APR Flash 11.13@127 and he was on racegas!!!!!!
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...-software.html

What do u think??

Regarding Salias...My point is that he still can offer a tune for stock 997tt which make it quicker than low-mid 600whp modded vtg's

There is almost 80-90awhp between APR tune vs modded vtg's and u recently claimed that madsex car ran 200-295 in 13's on pumpgas

Do u know that 997tt low 700awhp w/GT3071R's on HIGH BOOST ran 200-300 in 11's

What is ur 200-300 will be if u ran racegas???
I completely understand your amazement and disbelief as I was in your shoes exactly 1 year ago when Skandalis car appeaerd in the streetracing scene here (with his previous owner) with just a tune and nothing else and noone could believe the results - he had beaten many modded VTG cars... I spent (as I have said many many times) more than 6 months trying to replicate the results but with no luck... This time around (and because I decided I would not mod any further and this is enough for me) I went with it from the start!
I knew it was blistering fast in 100-200 BUT I did not know it would produce such 200-300 times!!!

But it did - pls ask Scott if you do not believe me as I have sent the entire file to him! I think it was 200-295 in 13.4sec to be exact ... Now maybe this is 14 or even 15sec for 200-300 exactly and this a looooong way from 11 you are mentioning for GT30's!
But then again I am wayyy ahead (according to Vbox) from GT2rs 's 19sec!


P.S. Salias (Dynodrome) tune is great and produced 100-200km/h in 6.3-6.5sec all day long (measured in Winter time though) as did other good tunes I tried for that matter, HOWEVER NONE of them could even come close to what I see now for 200-300!
 

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Originally Posted by ysfg35
skandalis447 .. you have great car am sure from that ..
but to be honest i tried APR on my car

apr tune + exhaust

i felt a small Difference but not much like you .. all what i saw in the dash steady 15 psi wot .. i raced my friend vette c6 (tune+headers) he was in front of me by 3 cars !!! i was not happy with apr so i switched to softronic and ran the same exhaust .. i felt big Difference and i wanted to besure from that so i raced my friend with his vette again i pulled him from the start by 2 cars and pulling away from him ... he said to me what did you do to your car .. its monster now wooooow !!!

this is my experience with apr ...

am not trying to underestimate APR .. they are great forsure ..

my friend skandalis447 .. i would like to ask you please to send me your data logs by PM .. i would like to see it

good luck with with your ride

Yousef
I think you did not allow the tune to adapt or something as what you say is far from the truth I am afraid... perhaps you were fooled by the dash reading which IS NOT TURE - BOOST IS AT 1.4BAR LEVELS IN RACE SETTING, and you did not allow yourself the opportunity to discover the benefits of a simply great tune! In fact now that I think of it, were you in fact in RACE mode at all when you raced that Vette?

Me and Skandalis never switch out of the race mode and we use premium pump gas all the time! The moderate(pump) setting which still produces great results (6.5 100-200 and in par with the other tunes) is way behind the race setting from my experience...

In any case now you have a much much quicker car, so you should be quite happy!!!

P.S. I have tried custom tunes from the TOP tuners and we could not replicate the results I got with this, so I know what I am talking about! The only downside (apart from crazy expensive) is that you do not have the option for further modding... But it is ok for me!
 
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Originally Posted by madsex343
I believe Skandalis and TTdude where rigfht on the money with their answers, but if I can anayze further pls let me know... Thanks
U ran mid 5's w/2 shifts also

So lets check that again...ur flash/exhaust car w/2 shift on pumpgas ran as quick as +750hp quickest modded vtg's w/1 shift ob pumpgas

That's mean if u have ur rev limiter to 7000RPM u will %100 BEAT quickest modded vtg's and u still on pumpgas

With racegas u should ran high 4's from 100-200 = high 5's from 60-130 if it 1 shift and racegas

On our slow modded vtg's we saw 0.4-0.5sec going from pumpgas to racegas

So u will be as quick as below cars which has modded stock turbos or GT turbos

5.85 - MBailey / RWD / 0-shifts (stock internals)
5.91 - bmoores / AWD / 1-shift (stock internals)
5.93 - OhioGT2 / GT2 / 1-shift (stock internals)
5.99 - ttboost / RWD / 1-shift (stock internals)
 
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Originally Posted by madsex343
I completely understand your amazement and disbelief as I was in your shoes exactly 1 year ago when Skandalis car appeaerd in the streetracing scene here (with his previous owner) with just a tune and nothing else and noone could believe the results - he had beaten many modded VTG cars... I spent (as I have said many many times) more than 6 months trying to replicate the results but with no luck... This time around (and because I decided I would not mod any further and this is enough for me) I went with it from the start!
I knew it was blistering fast in 100-200 BUT I did not know it would produce such 200-300 times!!!

But it did - pls ask Scott if you do not believe me as I have sent the entire file to him! I think it was 200-295 in 13.4sec to be exact ... Now maybe this is 14 or even 15sec for 200-300 exactly and this a looooong way from 11 you are mentioning for GT30's!
But then again I am wayyy ahead (according to Vbox) from GT2rs 's 19sec!


P.S. Salias (Dynodrome) tune is great and produced 100-200km/h in 6.3-6.5sec all day long (measured in Winter time though) as did other good tunes I tried for that matter, HOWEVER NONE of them could even come close to what I see now for 200-300!
I see no comment from u and skand about Chris/USP 997tt which has same ur tune plus racegas not pumpgas as urs and skand car .

We all know that ur tune is good but u claimed that ur car ( with 2 shift ) ran as quick as other cars ( with 1 shift ) made muchmore power than urs

I wish Chris/USP or any members with APR tune/exhaust could chime in and let us know what is thier 100-200/60-130
 
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Originally Posted by Shotcaller
U ran mid 5's w/2 shifts also

So lets check that again...ur flash/exhaust car w/2 shift on pumpgas ran as quick as +750hp quickest modded vtg's w/1 shift ob pumpgas

That's mean if u have ur rev limiter to 7000RPM u will %100 BEAT quickest modded vtg's and u still on pumpgas

With racegas u should ran high 4's from 100-200 = high 5's from 60-130 if it 1 shift and racegas

On our slow modded vtg's we saw 0.4-0.5sec going from pumpgas to racegas

So u will be as quick as below cars which has modded stock turbos or GT turbos

5.85 - MBailey / RWD / 0-shifts (stock internals)
5.91 - bmoores / AWD / 1-shift (stock internals)
5.93 - OhioGT2 / GT2 / 1-shift (stock internals)
5.99 - ttboost / RWD / 1-shift (stock internals)
You still have your facts mixed up as I can see... Pls allow me to clarify yet once again:

My best runs are 5.5-5.9 100-200km/h without racegas BUT ALWAYS WITH 1 SHIFT. I start in 3rd gear around 60km/h and reach 202km/h with 1 quick shift into 4th! So this is 1 shift from 100-200km/h - I have seen 6sec from standstill and 2 shifts (2nd to 3rd as well)!
So as you can see the 2 shifts I am telling here are not needed for achieving my best 100-200 time BUT only to reach 130mph, by changing into 5th!!!!!
All the times you see (apart from mine) in the 60-130mph list mention 1 or 2 shifts BUT not including 5th gear shift and only separating 2 caregories :
a. the ones who start their run in 2nd gear
b. the ones who start their run in 3rd gear

Everyone has a raised limiter this allowing them to reach 130mph in 4th! If they did not like in my case (and only for 997 - 996 has longer 4th or something) we would be talking about at least 2 shifts or 3 if they started in 2nd gear the run!!

Hope this clarifies it enough for you

Now on the racegas issue I have yet to see the results for myself, and I do believe that 0.2-0.3sec 100-200km/h may be shaved off along with some colder temps but under no circuimstances better than this!

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Our times speak for ourselves...You are more than welcome to come here and see for yourself both the cars,fill them with premium pump gas and have a ride...You ll be surprised...
 
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Originally Posted by skandalis447
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Our times speak for ourselves...You are more than welcome to come here and see for yourself both the cars,fill them with premium pump gas and have a ride...You ll be surprised...
 
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just did it ..

1.35 bar meth+93octane
weather was 29c






please can anyone telll me how
to get better 100-200 time ???

i started in 3rd gear rolling 60km
 
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Originally Posted by ysfg35
just did it ..

1.35 bar meth+93octane
weather was 29c

please can anyone telll me how
to get better 100-200 time ???

i started in 3rd gear rolling 60km
That is probably a 6.3x 60-130. That is very good for that temp! To get the tip to go faster is not easy. You might try manual shifting at different points or just put more power in the car!!
A six speed give the driver more variables to play with to try to make the runs better...
 


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