100-200 km/h times: Stock_vs_Modified
#526
03-08-2011, 01:14 PM
Okay,
Tomorrow my 997.2 Ics will be bolted, dyno with Durametric before, after, and remap a custom tune.
I think we will put the boost around 1.4 at peak and 1.25/1.3 after 5000rpm.
I bring my V-box too
Will tell you bros...
Tomorrow my 997.2 Ics will be bolted, dyno with Durametric before, after, and remap a custom tune.
I think we will put the boost around 1.4 at peak and 1.25/1.3 after 5000rpm.
I bring my V-box too
Will tell you bros...
#527
03-09-2011, 01:09 PM
...So,
Ics bolted, ECU remapped:
AT was 9°C, so no great gain on the dyno but really more consistant times, I V-boxed a little on the motorway to home (but bad conditions, traffic, etc...)
Numbers:
This morning (997.1 Ics): 617hp/855Nm, 800Nm from 3900 to 4900, 9°C AT, 25 to 40°C IAT, EGT 750°C (4th gear on dyno), Boost 1.23 OB and 1.05 from 5000 to 7000. (Durametric values)
This evening: 650hp/877Nm (several shots from 647 to 655), 800Nm from 3500 to 5500, 16.5°C AT, 25 to 40°C IAT, EGT 800°C, Boost 1.3 OB and 1.15 till revlimit (7200). (Durametric)
I noticed the boost measured with a mano after VTGs was 0.1Bar upper than Durametric, so 2 methods to consider boost.
Secondly, with bigger end boost the engine does not produce more power (as Karol), even the curve is falling 200rpm sooner.
On the road the car performs consistant 100-200 in 6.3' by 12°C AT, but I will try better and 100-300.
Cheers.
P.
Ics bolted, ECU remapped:
AT was 9°C, so no great gain on the dyno but really more consistant times, I V-boxed a little on the motorway to home (but bad conditions, traffic, etc...)
Numbers:
This morning (997.1 Ics): 617hp/855Nm, 800Nm from 3900 to 4900, 9°C AT, 25 to 40°C IAT, EGT 750°C (4th gear on dyno), Boost 1.23 OB and 1.05 from 5000 to 7000. (Durametric values)
This evening: 650hp/877Nm (several shots from 647 to 655), 800Nm from 3500 to 5500, 16.5°C AT, 25 to 40°C IAT, EGT 800°C, Boost 1.3 OB and 1.15 till revlimit (7200). (Durametric)
I noticed the boost measured with a mano after VTGs was 0.1Bar upper than Durametric, so 2 methods to consider boost.
Secondly, with bigger end boost the engine does not produce more power (as Karol), even the curve is falling 200rpm sooner.
On the road the car performs consistant 100-200 in 6.3' by 12°C AT, but I will try better and 100-300.
Cheers.
P.
#528
03-09-2011, 01:15 PM
...So,
Ics bolted, ECU remapped:
AT was 9°C, so no great gain on the dyno but really more consistant times, I V-boxed a little on the motorway to home (but bad conditions, traffic, etc...)
Numbers:
This morning (997.1 Ics): 617hp/855Nm, 800Nm from 3900 to 4900, 9°C AT, 25 to 40°C IAT, EGT 750°C (4th gear on dyno), Boost 1.23 OB and 1.05 from 5000 to 7000. (Durametric values)
This evening: 650hp/877Nm (several shots from 647 to 655), 800Nm from 3500 to 5500, 16.5°C AT, 25 to 40°C IAT, EGT 800°C, Boost 1.3 OB and 1.15 till revlimit (7200). (Durametric)
I noticed the boost measured with a mano after VTGs was 0.1Bar upper than Durametric, so 2 methods to consider boost.
Secondly, with bigger end boost the engine does not produce more power (as Karol), even the curve is falling 200rpm sooner.
On the road the car performs consistant 100-200 in 6.3' by 12°C AT, but I will try better and 100-300.
Cheers.
P.
Ics bolted, ECU remapped:
AT was 9°C, so no great gain on the dyno but really more consistant times, I V-boxed a little on the motorway to home (but bad conditions, traffic, etc...)
Numbers:
This morning (997.1 Ics): 617hp/855Nm, 800Nm from 3900 to 4900, 9°C AT, 25 to 40°C IAT, EGT 750°C (4th gear on dyno), Boost 1.23 OB and 1.05 from 5000 to 7000. (Durametric values)
This evening: 650hp/877Nm (several shots from 647 to 655), 800Nm from 3500 to 5500, 16.5°C AT, 25 to 40°C IAT, EGT 800°C, Boost 1.3 OB and 1.15 till revlimit (7200). (Durametric)
I noticed the boost measured with a mano after VTGs was 0.1Bar upper than Durametric, so 2 methods to consider boost.
Secondly, with bigger end boost the engine does not produce more power (as Karol), even the curve is falling 200rpm sooner.
On the road the car performs consistant 100-200 in 6.3' by 12°C AT, but I will try better and 100-300.
Cheers.
P.
I may have missed some post, but what mods are on your car??
Congrats for the great numbers!
#529
03-09-2011, 01:20 PM
But my tune basis is the complete FVD stage 3 kit with upgraded VTGs, headers, etc...
Now 997.2 Ics fitted and custom tuned.
#530
03-09-2011, 01:23 PM
so acceleration time 100-200km/h same with 997.1 coolers?
I think your numbers are fine for vtg's, it's maha?
I think your numbers are fine for vtg's, it's maha?
#531
03-09-2011, 01:32 PM
Today's 6.3' were between cars (I didn't overtake, just full throttle when "holes" in the traffic) by 12°C, but the times get from 6.3' to 6.4'.
I will retry quietly with my usual conditions.
The dyno is a Superflow 4x4, my 993TT did 553hp on it (4th gear) while it did 562hp on Ofsky's Dynojet (in 6th gear) and 576hp on Sportec's Bosch (6th too).
#532
03-09-2011, 01:43 PM
In fact 6.3' was the best time I ever did with the 997.1 parts by 4°C AT, average by 12°C AT was 6.7'.
Today's 6.3' were between cars (I didn't overtake, just full throttle when "holes" in the traffic) by 12°C, but the times get from 6.3' to 6.4'.
I will retry quietly with my usual conditions.
The dyno is a Superflow 4x4, my 993TT did 553hp on it (4th gear) while it did 562hp on Ofsky's Dynojet (in 6th gear) and 576hp on Sportec's Bosch (6th too).
Today's 6.3' were between cars (I didn't overtake, just full throttle when "holes" in the traffic) by 12°C, but the times get from 6.3' to 6.4'.
I will retry quietly with my usual conditions.
The dyno is a Superflow 4x4, my 993TT did 553hp on it (4th gear) while it did 562hp on Ofsky's Dynojet (in 6th gear) and 576hp on Sportec's Bosch (6th too).
power was measured 4x4?
#533
03-09-2011, 02:02 PM
Yes around 10'...
Yes power was measured 4x4, from the road to the dyno, "not dis-shafted".
I expect touching a little 6' in good conditions, but with pumpgas.
Yes power was measured 4x4, from the road to the dyno, "not dis-shafted".
I expect touching a little 6' in good conditions, but with pumpgas.
#534
03-09-2011, 02:24 PM
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Its obvious that since you retune your software to take full effect from ICs,you have more power...You will see better numbers from 200 to 300 where OEM ICs cant hold IAT down...Let us know of your times...
#535
03-09-2011, 03:03 PM
...So,
Ics bolted, ECU remapped:
AT was 9°C, so no great gain on the dyno but really more consistant times, I V-boxed a little on the motorway to home (but bad conditions, traffic, etc...)
Numbers:
This morning (997.1 Ics): 617hp/855Nm, 800Nm from 3900 to 4900, 9°C AT, 25 to 40°C IAT, EGT 750°C (4th gear on dyno), Boost 1.23 OB and 1.05 from 5000 to 7000. (Durametric values)
This evening: 650hp/877Nm (several shots from 647 to 655), 800Nm from 3500 to 5500, 16.5°C AT, 25 to 40°C IAT, EGT 800°C, Boost 1.3 OB and 1.15 till revlimit (7200). (Durametric)
I noticed the boost measured with a mano after VTGs was 0.1Bar upper than Durametric, so 2 methods to consider boost.
Secondly, with bigger end boost the engine does not produce more power (as Karol), even the curve is falling 200rpm sooner.
On the road the car performs consistant 100-200 in 6.3' by 12°C AT, but I will try better and 100-300.
Cheers.
P.
Ics bolted, ECU remapped:
AT was 9°C, so no great gain on the dyno but really more consistant times, I V-boxed a little on the motorway to home (but bad conditions, traffic, etc...)
Numbers:
This morning (997.1 Ics): 617hp/855Nm, 800Nm from 3900 to 4900, 9°C AT, 25 to 40°C IAT, EGT 750°C (4th gear on dyno), Boost 1.23 OB and 1.05 from 5000 to 7000. (Durametric values)
This evening: 650hp/877Nm (several shots from 647 to 655), 800Nm from 3500 to 5500, 16.5°C AT, 25 to 40°C IAT, EGT 800°C, Boost 1.3 OB and 1.15 till revlimit (7200). (Durametric)
I noticed the boost measured with a mano after VTGs was 0.1Bar upper than Durametric, so 2 methods to consider boost.
Secondly, with bigger end boost the engine does not produce more power (as Karol), even the curve is falling 200rpm sooner.
On the road the car performs consistant 100-200 in 6.3' by 12°C AT, but I will try better and 100-300.
Cheers.
P.
#536
03-10-2011, 12:58 AM
To Dimitri and SC,
The traffic and the night did not allow me to run 100-300, I will test it soon.
My best time was 24.6' by 4°C AT, I expect now a 1' gain at least by the actual 10°C AT...
Notice: we tryed to map the OB to 1.5Bar at the mano (actually 1.4, or 1.3 at Durametric), the max torque was 920Nm but the boost built and reduced faster than with 1.4, so, we let 1.4, the conrods will appreciate...
I think the limit of my turbos is reached, for more power it would need now a lot of money and work. (Alphas, Bcontroller, cams, conrods, etc...)
My car might stay like that.
Notice2: my ECU man had GT2RS 's power curves in his dyno, we compared with mine, I kill it from 2000 to revlimit. (Perhaps not on the road, cause of weight)
The traffic and the night did not allow me to run 100-300, I will test it soon.
My best time was 24.6' by 4°C AT, I expect now a 1' gain at least by the actual 10°C AT...
Notice: we tryed to map the OB to 1.5Bar at the mano (actually 1.4, or 1.3 at Durametric), the max torque was 920Nm but the boost built and reduced faster than with 1.4, so, we let 1.4, the conrods will appreciate...
I think the limit of my turbos is reached, for more power it would need now a lot of money and work. (Alphas, Bcontroller, cams, conrods, etc...)
My car might stay like that.
Notice2: my ECU man had GT2RS 's power curves in his dyno, we compared with mine, I kill it from 2000 to revlimit. (Perhaps not on the road, cause of weight)
Last edited by K24F; 03-10-2011 at 01:03 AM.
#537
03-10-2011, 03:24 AM
To Dimitri and SC,
The traffic and the night did not allow me to run 100-300, I will test it soon.
My best time was 24.6' by 4°C AT, I expect now a 1' gain at least by the actual 10°C AT...
Notice: we tryed to map the OB to 1.5Bar at the mano (actually 1.4, or 1.3 at Durametric), the max torque was 920Nm but the boost built and reduced faster than with 1.4, so, we let 1.4, the conrods will appreciate...
I think the limit of my turbos is reached, for more power it would need now a lot of money and work. (Alphas, Bcontroller, cams, conrods, etc...)
My car might stay like that.
Notice2: my ECU man had GT2RS 's power curves in his dyno, we compared with mine, I kill it from 2000 to revlimit. (Perhaps not on the road, cause of weight)
The traffic and the night did not allow me to run 100-300, I will test it soon.
My best time was 24.6' by 4°C AT, I expect now a 1' gain at least by the actual 10°C AT...
Notice: we tryed to map the OB to 1.5Bar at the mano (actually 1.4, or 1.3 at Durametric), the max torque was 920Nm but the boost built and reduced faster than with 1.4, so, we let 1.4, the conrods will appreciate...
I think the limit of my turbos is reached, for more power it would need now a lot of money and work. (Alphas, Bcontroller, cams, conrods, etc...)
My car might stay like that.
Notice2: my ECU man had GT2RS 's power curves in his dyno, we compared with mine, I kill it from 2000 to revlimit. (Perhaps not on the road, cause of weight)
#538
03-10-2011, 03:45 AM
In fact 6.3' was the best time I ever did with the 997.1 parts by 4°C AT, average by 12°C AT was 6.7'.
Today's 6.3' were between cars (I didn't overtake, just full throttle when "holes" in the traffic) by 12°C, but the times get from 6.3' to 6.4'.
I will retry quietly with my usual conditions.
The dyno is a Superflow 4x4, my 993TT did 553hp on it (4th gear) while it did 562hp on Ofsky's Dynojet (in 6th gear) and 576hp on Sportec's Bosch (6th too).
Today's 6.3' were between cars (I didn't overtake, just full throttle when "holes" in the traffic) by 12°C, but the times get from 6.3' to 6.4'.
I will retry quietly with my usual conditions.
The dyno is a Superflow 4x4, my 993TT did 553hp on it (4th gear) while it did 562hp on Ofsky's Dynojet (in 6th gear) and 576hp on Sportec's Bosch (6th too).
It appears that the re-tune really brings out the best of them...
On a sidenote, these past couple of days temps have really gone down over here (sub zero in some cases), so last night I thought it would be a great chance to take the car out for a spin to see if I can manage to do better...
After 4-5 runs constantly hitting 5.5-5.7sec (recorded in my memory card) I thought I should let her cool down a bit and try in a while again... The AT was 1-2 C at the moment and then it dropped to -1C. I said to my self perfect opportunity to pull a great 100-200 plus a great 60-130 and get a bit further down the list. I did notice that for some reason every time I stopped the vbox did not autosave any results as usual, but could not bother to investigate at the time as I did not want to miss my window. So I gave it a go and pulled a blazing 5.3sec for 100-200km/h and on a second 60-130mph run (keep in mind I have to make 2 shifts for this due to stock limiter @ 6750) a 6.4sec. I was so happy that I took a picture with my iphone fo the5.3sec to brag to Dimitris.
Then I went home to discover that the run had not be recorded at all...
Nevertheless, the car sure does like it when it is supercold out there doesn't it???
#539
03-10-2011, 04:43 AM
To Dimitri and SC,
The traffic and the night did not allow me to run 100-300, I will test it soon.
My best time was 24.6' by 4°C AT, I expect now a 1' gain at least by the actual 10°C AT...
Notice: we tryed to map the OB to 1.5Bar at the mano (actually 1.4, or 1.3 at Durametric), the max torque was 920Nm but the boost built and reduced faster than with 1.4, so, we let 1.4, the conrods will appreciate...
I think the limit of my turbos is reached, for more power it would need now a lot of money and work. (Alphas, Bcontroller, cams, conrods, etc...)
Notice2: my ECU man had GT2RS 's power curves in his dyno, we compared with mine, I kill it from 2000 to revlimit. (Perhaps not on the road, cause of weight)
The traffic and the night did not allow me to run 100-300, I will test it soon.
My best time was 24.6' by 4°C AT, I expect now a 1' gain at least by the actual 10°C AT...
Notice: we tryed to map the OB to 1.5Bar at the mano (actually 1.4, or 1.3 at Durametric), the max torque was 920Nm but the boost built and reduced faster than with 1.4, so, we let 1.4, the conrods will appreciate...
I think the limit of my turbos is reached, for more power it would need now a lot of money and work. (Alphas, Bcontroller, cams, conrods, etc...)
Notice2: my ECU man had GT2RS 's power curves in his dyno, we compared with mine, I kill it from 2000 to revlimit. (Perhaps not on the road, cause of weight)
Before couple of years with old modded vtg's we saw 14-15sec on 93 octane on 18C and 13's on racegas on tip cars ( which is slower than 6speed cars from 200-300kmh )
U need to send ur turbos to TPC/Proto/SPI which has proven results
#540
03-10-2011, 06:13 AM
so ur 200-300kmh in 17-18's?? On 10c also??
Before couple of years with old modded vtg's we saw 14-15sec on 93 octane on 18c and 13's on racegas on tip cars ( which is slower than 6speed cars from 200-300kmh )
u need to send ur turbos to tpc/proto/spi which has proven results
Before couple of years with old modded vtg's we saw 14-15sec on 93 octane on 18c and 13's on racegas on tip cars ( which is slower than 6speed cars from 200-300kmh )
u need to send ur turbos to tpc/proto/spi which has proven results
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