Turbo with Gt2 RS engine ?
#16
06-09-2010, 05:04 PM
Maybe find a leftover 997tt with the GT based motor??
not to mention 620 bhp sounds WAAAY better than 480 (or even 530 for that matter, as you find in the current turbo S), don't you think ? 
That being said, I still smell a troll...
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#17
06-09-2010, 05:26 PM
If you dont like the sound, put a aftermarket exhaust on and be done with it.<!-- google_ad_section_end -->
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06-09-2010, 05:53 PM
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have you not watched the videos from the previous page ? There was one with a modified 997.2 turbo, with an aftermarket exhaust...and yes, it still sounded like crap. The point is, if the base engine sounds nasty, fitting an aftermarket exhaust will only enhance the nastyness. So no, I don't think that fitting an aftermarket exhaust will solve the problem..
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#19
06-09-2010, 06:01 PM
Accepted a turbo engine will never sound as good as a 8400rpm atmo P engine but thats no reason to go and ruin a perfectly good car.
I couldnt even imagine the hit you would take at sell time for doing that. But then again if you are a CEO of a bank and money is no object then i guess why not. You could even take the roof off with an angle grinder too and transform it into a convertible.
I couldnt even imagine the hit you would take at sell time for doing that. But then again if you are a CEO of a bank and money is no object then i guess why not. You could even take the roof off with an angle grinder too and transform it into a convertible.
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06-09-2010, 06:21 PM
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Obviously the guy doesn't know that the GT2 RS will only have a production run of 500 units. I applaud the OP's enthusiasm and optimism, but it will be much more of a headache and PITA to transplant the GT2RS engine into a 997.2 Turbo.
To the OP: Why not get on the phone with Champion Motorsports and have them make you a "War Admiral"? It will probably end up being more cost efficient and easier.
That being said, I still smell a troll...
To the OP: Why not get on the phone with Champion Motorsports and have them make you a "War Admiral"? It will probably end up being more cost efficient and easier.
That being said, I still smell a troll...
#22
06-09-2010, 08:23 PM
The PDK is physically too large and doesn't fit the old Mezger engine so there is no way you can mate the two. Even with enough money to throw at it you might not be able to re-engineer a solution.
Personally I think there are better sounding exhausts available (my favorite is Europipe) than what I hear from the GT2 RS clip.
Personally I think there are better sounding exhausts available (my favorite is Europipe) than what I hear from the GT2 RS clip.
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06-09-2010, 11:56 PM
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I think too much ignorance is mis-guiding your decisions. Can't you tell the DFI in your video is stock exhaust vs a modified exhaust in your second clip? Pretty much all stock 997.1 or.2 turbos are lacking in the exhaust note until you change the exhuast.
PS, your decision to get a PDK vs 6speed would be more "uninspiring"
PS, your decision to get a PDK vs 6speed would be more "uninspiring"
yes, the engine note..
Believe me, I don't have to personally drive a car to know if i like the sound it makes or not...all I can say is that I've seen many clips of the new 911 turbo and in all of them it sounded "uninspiring" to say the least. Just listen to this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yc73d...eature=related
or this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjaSj...eature=related
And now compare with gt2 sound from above! As you can see (or hear), and as many others have noted, these DFI engines are not particulary melodious; in fact they're downright flat sounding, and not very pleasant to the ears. And that, for many of the 911's potential buyers, is a major deal breaker. Are you reading this porsche ??
Believe me, I don't have to personally drive a car to know if i like the sound it makes or not...all I can say is that I've seen many clips of the new 911 turbo and in all of them it sounded "uninspiring" to say the least. Just listen to this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yc73d...eature=related
or this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjaSj...eature=related
And now compare with gt2 sound from above! As you can see (or hear), and as many others have noted, these DFI engines are not particulary melodious; in fact they're downright flat sounding, and not very pleasant to the ears. And that, for many of the 911's potential buyers, is a major deal breaker. Are you reading this porsche ??
#28
06-10-2010, 12:27 AM
Please, don't laugh I want to buy a brand new 911 turbo but I find the new DI engine too clinical, or souless. The recently launched gt2 RS has the right engine but it's far to expensive for my budget. Plus it's manual trans only. So I was wondering, is it possible from a technical point of view to fit the 3.6 Metzger engine into the facelifted turbo (which has now moved to 3.8) ? If so, how much would that cost ?!
I want to buy a brand new 911 turbo but I find the new DI engine too clinical, or souless. The recently launched gt2 RS has the right engine but it's far to expensive for my budget. Plus it's manual trans only. So I was wondering, is it possible from a technical point of view to fit the 3.6 Metzger engine into the facelifted turbo (which has now moved to 3.8) ? If so, how much would that cost ?!And you say please dont laugh? Cmon this is all just one big silly joke so just come clean and admit it.
A PDK Turbo with no soul
and you dont want a manual tranny either . Of course its going to be bloody clinical!!! Its about as fast and idiot proof as a supercar can get. But it definately has soul....thats for certain. And if the exhaust is such an issue then stick a goddamned exhaust on it and get on with it!!!
Post us the pics and until then no more silly talk please.
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06-10-2010, 06:16 AM
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Believe me, I don't have to personally drive a car to know if i like the sound it makes or not...all I can say is that I've seen many clips of the new 911 turbo and in all of them it sounded "uninspiring" to say the least. Just listen to this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yc73d...eature=related
or this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjaSj...eature=related
And now compare with gt2 sound from above! As you can see (or hear), and as many others have noted, these DFI engines are not particulary melodious; in fact they're downright flat sounding, and not very pleasant to the ears. And that, for many of the 911's potential buyers, is a major deal breaker. Are you reading this porsche ??
Believe me, I don't have to personally drive a car to know if i like the sound it makes or not...all I can say is that I've seen many clips of the new 911 turbo and in all of them it sounded "uninspiring" to say the least. Just listen to this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yc73d...eature=related
or this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjaSj...eature=related
And now compare with gt2 sound from above! As you can see (or hear), and as many others have noted, these DFI engines are not particulary melodious; in fact they're downright flat sounding, and not very pleasant to the ears. And that, for many of the 911's potential buyers, is a major deal breaker. Are you reading this porsche ??
Gotta love those arm chair,magazine reading, critics
Last edited by pepper09tt; 06-10-2010 at 09:14 AM.
#30
06-10-2010, 08:11 AM
"Weight savings are obviously among the primary objectives in this environment and, to this end, the latest double-clutch PDK transmission was not considered for the GT3.
Racers, and, in-turn, owners, are spared the additional 30 kilograms that this technology would add to the already laden rear-end and instead, are left free to play with a heavily-weighted clutch pedal and six mechanically precise, DIY forward speeds."
http://www.carmag.co.za/article/pors...gt3-2010-04-12
Personally I think there are better sounding exhausts available (my favorite is Europipe) than what I hear from the GT2 RS clip.
Originally Posted by testjet
I think too much ignorance is mis-guiding your decisions. Can't you tell the DFI in your video is stock exhaust vs a modified exhaust in your second clip?
Yes, it's a modified exhaust, and I have posted the clip just to show you that the engine still sounds "wrong" even with an aftermarket exhaust ! So you can spare me with the exhaust BS :P
Pretty much all stock 997.1 or.2 turbos are lacking in the exhaust note until you change the exhuast.
That, my friend, is the difference between a race-derived engine, and a non-race derived engine..
PS, your decision to get a PDK vs 6speed would be more "uninspiring" 
Last edited by gt2turbo; 06-10-2010 at 09:25 AM.