It doesnt.They are totally different...

 

who sells this exhaust ?

 

997tt.2 is different exhaust to 997tt.1. I was told a few weeks back EP were still in development of the 997tt.2 exhaust so who knows it may well be ready now?? Anyway good things come to those who wait .
Patience is a virtue etc etc...

 

soundz really great.

 

Does anybody know who sells this exhaust or where to investigate further ?

 

Wow Slavic is that you?

 

sounds good...

 

Still in R&D.
As recently as a few days ago, Steff would not comment on an ETA for availability.

Indeed...

If anything, it just goes to show how meticulous EP's development process is and to what lengths they go before releasing a product.

 

Not to rain on anyones parade but there are many ways to construe why the product is not ready in a timely manner since the .2 has been out for awhile now.

Not all of the reasons are as good as you propose.

 

Disagree. Whilst i understand your scepticism you have obviously never dealt with these guys nor used their exhausts. Once youve seen one in the flesh and seen the level of detail and quality of manufacture for your own eyes you will fully understand. Europipe live and breathe their Porsche exhaust products. They have their own 997tt cars too. Making these exhausts is their livelyhood. Once youve seen one and tried one you will completely understand exactly and buy nothing else. If they havent released the .2 system yet then that only means they are not 100% satisfied yet. When they release it, it will be flawless dont worry. I dont work for them or are on any commissions. I never knew they were as good as they are untill i received the product and used it. I have bought other high end porsche exhausts previously but nothing to the standard of these guys. Of course your call tho....not mandating them .

 

There's no parade to start with so rain away all you want mate.

Please note, however, that I am not proposing or assuming anything.
As I already have my name on their first production batch customer list, I am in regular contact with Europipe to check on the development progress of their exhaust system and am being updated accordingly.

The only reason I can think of that delays any exhaust manufacturer's new product release is their own level of satisfaction with said product.

The higher the product standards they set for themselves, the lengthier their development process.

Many issues must be taken into consideration when developing an exhaust system. These issues include (and this is by no means a complete list):

1- Potential for power and torque loss in certain gears and certain rpm ranges
2- Actual power/torque gain targets you set yourself for the new exhaust system you are developing and when and how evenly they come in
3- Cabin drone characteristics
4- External sound tuning
5- Emissions and CEL issues
6- Fitment and alignment issues
7- Final weight of the exhaust system compared to weight of the stock exhaust

Each one of the above items, in turn, will spawn off a plethora of other issues and considerations in their own right.

It is perfectly normal for your research and development to be lengthier than others if you place such exacting standards for your products that you accept zero compromises on potentially problematic issues such as power losses in some rpm bands and in some gears, unacceptable cabin drone or poor and imprecise fitment while concurrently setting high targets with respect to things that you are expected to improve upon, such as system weight, power and torque and external sound.

Yes, you can rush a product to market, as many have.
But how many products released thus far for the 997.2TT meet all of the criteria enumerated above?

The short answer is, probably very few, and, if so, only by the companies that have the capabilities to throw a lot of manpower behind their development process.
EP, compared to some of the other exhaust manufacturers out there, is a small but highly specialist firm that have set for themselves the highest of standards.
Their R&D hours come at the expense of production hours for released systems, and accordingly, it is one more reason for their lengthier process.

Personally, I choose to wear a smile on my face and wait for EP, happy in the knowledge that when it is finally released, their exhaust quality will be as un-compromised as the car it is going on, and quite worthy of it.

Now, if you can think of more ominous and sinister reasons as to why EP are late in releasing their exhaust and would like to rain on this, by all means, let it rain, let it snow.
Differing opinions enrich our 6speed experience.

 

I have found that in most exhaust systems (cat-back, and muffler swaps) low end torque is sacrificed most of the time with the power band moving toward upper mid-high RPMs increasing higher top end. the best method to maintain linear torque and lower end torque is through the higher flow catalyst of 200 or 100 CPSI (200) and even better a header/collector replacement.

And if given a choice, removing the catalyst ideal (emissions illegal) or replacing with a high flow cat will be the BEST improvement of all in a stand alone performance gain comparison.

 

oh one last tidbit on conversation....the ear pleasing exhaust acoustics may not "necessarily" be a positive contribution in terms of actual power "performance" gains. Ask any die hard motorcycle enthusiast..the audible roar you may hear may be music to the soul and your mind may play tricks deceiving that its loud and deafening it must be fast...LOL do not be deceived...performance is NOT gained through music alone. By no means.

 

I was simply playing the devils advocate.
I too am searching for the "perfect" aftermarket exhaust for my .2TT
The reason I have not made a move as of yet is because I am not sold on any particular system out there yet.
I hope that Europipe is that system and if it is I will be right behind you in line....rain or snow !!

 

Agreed. For the record, EP's system for the 997.1 comes with the 100 cell cats. No CEL. Check their website for pics. The size of those cats dwarfs the OE ones.

Again, I agree wholeheartedly.

I hear you bro.
When the EP system is finally released and I get my hands on it, I will definitely post a full and *unbiased* review.
With expectations set so high, I will probably not tolerate any flaw in that system and will point it out.
I will also post VBOX data of before and after.
Hopefully that might help in your decision should you choose to hold off on pulling the trigger that long.