Why Don't Porsche Dealers Test/Show DME Results on Pre-Owned Cars?
#2
Most dealers will, if you ask them - but often they will charge you a PPI type of fee - $80-120.
CPO cars should have DME scans available. If a dealer won't show you on a CPO - walk away.
You may want to consider getting a Durametric cable and software - there are a lot of things you can do with it - and it scans all the data. A little bit of an investment, but worth it if you plan on keeping your car for a while.
CPO cars should have DME scans available. If a dealer won't show you on a CPO - walk away.
You may want to consider getting a Durametric cable and software - there are a lot of things you can do with it - and it scans all the data. A little bit of an investment, but worth it if you plan on keeping your car for a while.
#3
Good question. I, like you, am in the market for a pre-owned 997.1 TT. I think that the average buyer does not know what the DME is and thus, more information is too much information. I assume they figure that they can provide it if a buyer asks, but if they don't ask, then they don't want to/need to know.
I am always amazed at the used vehicle some people buy..."I didn't know it was a salvage title!" etc....C'mon!
Then there are guys like us, that probably put a little too much time, thought, and effort into the process....Then again, it is $100,000.00!
I am always amazed at the used vehicle some people buy..."I didn't know it was a salvage title!" etc....C'mon!
Then there are guys like us, that probably put a little too much time, thought, and effort into the process....Then again, it is $100,000.00!
#4
Most people who are looking specifically for Porsche's know that the DME data can be read from the OBD scan port. When I sold me previous cars, I always provided a print out of the data. Too bad dealerships don't do the same. It should be the standard.
#6
Range 1 40423 ignitions
Range 2 17016 ignitions
Range 3 7149 ignitions
Range 4 2933 ignitions
Range 5 432 ignitions
Range 6 196 ignitions
Obviously I walked on this one.
#7
My friend is looking into a Porsche and I forgot to tell him about this. Glad I caught this, thanks for the heads up!
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#8
But what should we be looking for..
Whats acceptable, and what isn`t
I would guess most cars would have range 1....
#9
Only if something breaks - lots of cars running around with a few over-rev ignitions above range 3 with no problems. Decision by buyer will depend on level of risk they are willing to take.
#11
This is great information and hugely valuable as I am about to purchase a 2005 911 Turbo S.
What, specifically, should I ask my dealership for? Just a DME readout?
Once I have that readout, I am just making sure that all ignitions are within the 1-3 range (or very few 4's)?
Are there other things (other than visual appearance) that I should look out for as clear give-aways that there may be problems with the car?
Thoughts on having a Porsche dealership do an inspection? It costs $405 but may be worth it before I drop $68K on this car.
Thank you very much in advance!
What, specifically, should I ask my dealership for? Just a DME readout?
Once I have that readout, I am just making sure that all ignitions are within the 1-3 range (or very few 4's)?
Are there other things (other than visual appearance) that I should look out for as clear give-aways that there may be problems with the car?
Thoughts on having a Porsche dealership do an inspection? It costs $405 but may be worth it before I drop $68K on this car.
Thank you very much in advance!
#14
I suspect there aren't very many buyers, absent those of us lurking in forums such as this or who are automotive insiders, who even know what a DME is. The P-dealership I bought my TT from told me I was the first person to request one which they happily provided free of charge. And, they sure didn't bother running one on my C4S trade-in before they accepted it.