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Old 01-18-2011 | 05:02 AM
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tt, def would agree with you on that!!!
 
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i cant wait to sign up for the masters course! pics of the GT2RS will come soon
 
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Originally Posted by TT Surgeon
I've done every version of the school they offer, the race school is the best by far. hurley runs an awesome show to say the least.
Personally, I enjoyed the Ross Bridge hotel, but I drove the turbo so it was a pretty quick trip to the hotel and back.
Everybody should do that school just to see what the bone car/stock suspension is capable of in 'trained' hands. it will make you rethink any mod beyond an exhaust.
Coming from the west coast I was at the mercy of the Ross Bridge Resort. Most disappointing was the golf pro wouldn't let us take their golf carts out on the course for a "tour".

I agree Daniel Eastman is great instructor, in fact they all are. I was fortunate in getting a few laps of private track instruction from Hurley plus a hot lap in a new GT3 with him. He is simply an amazing driver. The way I put the Porsche instructors in perspective is they are like Formula 1 drivers, the BMW M School instructors are like NASCAR drivers and the Skip Barber instructors are like go cart drivers. Don't get me wrong. They are all excellent instructors, just their demeanor is different.

I agree with Chris the 3 day racing license school is not to be missed. The sad part for me is what do I look forward to now. I have to satisfy my urges with occasional Skip Barber classes at Laguna Seca.
 
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I have been interested in taking one of these classes to really learn how to appreciate and take advantage of my tt. But will I accomplish that by mostly driving non tt's at this? I'm sure it will make me a better drover which is great, but also want to learn howmto better drive my tt specifically.
 
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Originally Posted by trice9
I have been interested in taking one of these classes to really learn how to appreciate and take advantage of my tt. But will I accomplish that by mostly driving non tt's at this? I'm sure it will make me a better drover which is great, but also want to learn howmto better drive my tt specifically.

You will be surprised at what those cars can do (base Carrera and Carrera S) in the right hands. It will totally blow you away! You don't need to be in a turbo to experience this. I only can remember 1 straightaway where the Turbo would come to life and have an edge. All that horsepower could get you in trouble quickly so i think the N/A engine will be all that you need for this purpose. We never got to drive or see any 997 turbos let alone see a GT2RS! When I took the class we all had base Carreras except on the second day we took turns on a few "launch" Carerra S models. You know, the all black ones with ceramic brakes that MSRP'd just under 100k? These cars were a bit more responsive and did handle crisper compared to the base Car. Definitely less body roll and a bit more punch to the throttle. At the very end we all got a ride around the track with an instructor in a Carrera S. I couldn't beleive how effortlessly these guys made it look. You will never forget this experience I assure you.
 
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i cant stress more how amazing these cars are out of the box...a carrera s on the track was more than enough to start...to put it in perspective, daniel eastman said 12 years ago he was racing one of 30 993 rsr cars that porsche made...their best effort at the time...the carrera s could beat it every time...i was more than happy to be in a na car for this event

daniel is a character...he is the type that could insult you and make you laugh hysterically while doing it
 
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at a local event Cass and Daniel led us in a stock PDK base carrera (stock tires, stock tire pressures) and had little trouble keeping distance on my friend and I in Hoosier-shod GT3's and 700hp TT's - I felt soooo small afterwards!
 
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at a local event Cass and Daniel led us in a stock PDK base carrera (stock tires, stock tire pressures) and had little trouble keeping distance on my friend and I in Hoosier-shod GT3's and 700hp TT's - I felt soooo small afterwards!
not a surprise...he is a very talented driver...so comfortable and smooth, he just looks and fits the part
 
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Easily the best driving school IMO. If you don't want to track your own car, this is the perfect course, PSDS allows you to experience what these cars can really do. I have said it many times, these cars have a very high performance envelope right out of the box, and I'm talking about the base Carrera let alone the Turbo! The instruction is top notch, Cass and Daniel and all the guys are excellent.
 
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i cant stress more how amazing these cars are out of the box...
Most owners never really get to know just how capable these cars are in stock trim with a decent alignment until they attend these schools. I recall seeing stock boxters in the hands of experienced drivers lap quicker (and overtake) modded PT's and GT3's. A very humbling experience and for some more so than others. I agree with certain members here that it is best to do the schools first before getting too carried away with any suspension mods (imho of course).
 
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School has been discussed ad nauseum here, so I didn't make a new thread.

Just got back from Birmingham for the 2 day 'Performance' course. They were running the Masters consecutively but unfortunately couldn't stay for it.

Great course, very knowledgeable and friendly staff. We got hit with the edge of a tornado on day 2 which made some of the exercises a bit hairy.

Barber is an extremely technical circuit. Great place to get your feet wet if you've never been on the track. You won't have any delusions that you're Ayrton Senna after leaving there. Pretty wide assortment of vehicles:

C2S (6 speed and PDK) and Cayman S (PDK) on the track
C2S (PDK) skidpad
Cayman S (6 speed) and Boxster Spyder (PDK) on the braking course
Boxster S (PDK) and Cayenne Turbo on the autocross
C2S (6 speed) Heel-toe exercise

Few things that made it less than perfect. Could stand to do less time on the 'exercises' (skidpad, autocross, etc) and more on the track.
I am officially never converting to PDK. As impressive as it may be, I did not enjoy my track time as much with those as I did with the 6 speed Carrera's.
Worst of all, what most of us were looking forward to never happened: No 'hot laps' with the instructors because of the inclement weather

Overall, good course. Would definitely like to get back sometime for the Masters.
My cool souvenir for being the best driver they ever had (....ok, not really: hat signed by all the instructors

 
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glad you had fun, wish you could have made it for when we were there....better weather
 
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I;m going to the 2 day performance course in May. Can't wait! I'm sure I'll have a new appreciation for my couple month old Turbo S after I return! Can't wait!! NIce write up. I can't stand car rides, I'm booked at the Ross hotel they recommend. Oh well...
 
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I am heading for the school first week of May as well, looking forward to it for a long time. Do you get your choice of driving 6 speeds or do they have you drive both.
 
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I am heading for the school first week of May as well, looking forward to it for a long time. Do you get your choice of driving 6 speeds or do they have you drive both.
I didn't ask as I did want to try the PDK on the track, but I supposed it could be possible to ask for 6 speed only on the track sessions. You unfortunately don't have a choice on some of the driving exercises such as the skidpad or autocross.
 


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