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What 100-300 times..also 0-100 and 0-200 AND 0-300 ???

and how much power do you make ???
will post numbers or pictures of racelogic but have to wait for weather...

on maha dyno 785ps and 860Nm with 1,4 bar boost at the middle and 1,05 bar boost at the top.

now I'm running 1,55 at the middle and 1,3 at the top but don't know the power.
I know that new sachs clutch kit with 764 pressure plate burned during first acceleration on 4th gear.
 
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Originally Posted by cayenne_ksa
We have raced proto 997TT GT35 with highly modified zo6. Race was rolling form 80kmh. the porsche was about 35-50 ahead of the vette. I didn't post these numbers anywhere else as they were measured from the zo6 but you can have an idea

temp was 14c, Full tank, lb230+ driver :P

here is the number for the zo6.

60-130 6.3 sec in 270m with 2 shifts
100-200 5.04 sec in 212m with 2 shifts
200-297 11.28 sec in 818m
"100-200 5.04 sec in 212m with 2 shifts" -it's very fast with 2 shifts
 
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I have done some calculation trying to estimate the 997tt number from the vette data. and here is what I came up with

using the acceleration formula. setting Vi 100kmh and Vf 200kmh as fixed values. estimating the distance to be at its lowest value 30m shorter. now we can estimate the time. I also calculated the error by using same method to calculate zo6 time and compare it to real( calculated VS actual ). I applied same error to the porsche timing to be more accurate.

100-200 4.5sec 190m ( subtracted about 22m from the zo6)
60-130 5.6 240m ( subtracted about 30m from zo6 distance )

taking in consideration this was 2 shifts run, so the car could save about .6 sec like with evo car. 100-200 4.79 with 2 shifts and 4.14 with one shift.

I think the car we have is capable of low 4 or high 3 sec 100-200

I could be wrong with my calculation or method used, but this was my best try.
 

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Originally Posted by 997 GT3 RS/TT
"100-200 5.04 sec in 212m with 2 shifts" -it's very fast with 2 shifts
it's the fastest vette we have in our region.
 
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In heard URG Lambo with 1900whp on the wheels run 2.5 sec 100-200
 
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Originally Posted by 997 GT3 RS/TT
strange my friend is running 996 turbo with bell cores, gt3076r, big injectors, 70mm europipe, big tb, big pipes before turbines and big pipes before tb and ecu from giac.
boost 1,4 bar and his 100-200 is 6,2sec.
power? 608 Ps and 825 Nm from Maha dyno.
he runs rear wheel drive only.
Your friend's car can use some tweaking. That's a lot of mods for only 6.2s. With my 63.5 mm vtgs, I'm running 5.8s 100-200 on race fuel.
 
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Originally Posted by TTdude
Your friend's car can use some tweaking. That's a lot of mods for only 6.2s. With my 63.5 mm vtgs, I'm running 5.8s 100-200 on race fuel.
finally I understood that you all running those great times on race fuel, we don't.
German tuners offer cams in their kits over 620PS....


btw this car did 400m in 10.85 sec

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psmcpd5PuBw
 
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I know that new sachs clutch kit with 764 pressure plate burned during first acceleration on 4th gear.
So you are making more torque than 860NM...since that clutch is rated to 900NM...


strange my friend is running 996 turbo with bell cores, gt3076r, big injectors, 70mm europipe, big tb, big pipes before turbines and big pipes before tb and ecu from giac.
boost 1,4 bar and his 100-200 is 6,2sec.
power? 608 Ps and 825 Nm from Maha dyno.
he runs rear wheel drive only.
Considering Switzer is pushing 800HP on A28's, these numbers are very low IMO...Something has to be wrong with that car..
 
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Originally Posted by 997 GT3 RS/TT
finally I understood that you all running those great times on race fuel, we don't.
German tuners offer cams in their kits over 620PS....


btw this car did 400m in 10.85 sec

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psmcpd5PuBw


This car belongs to the guy that sold me his A3071's... really nice guy to deal with.
 
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Originally Posted by emadelta86
This car belongs to the guy that sold me his A3071's... really nice guy to deal with.
correct, he is doing service to my car here in poland.
I think again U.S power numbers are very optimistic.

so as you can see it's not bad for 600ps I mean 10,85sec.
intake temp was over 55C as ambient was 30C that day.

there is no problem, everything is working, no knocking, boost , ignition all fine....but the program is from U.S.
 

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Originally Posted by 997 GT3 RS/TT
finally I understood that you all running those great times on race fuel, we don't.
German tuners offer cams in their kits over 620PS....
Even with 93 pump fuel, I can get 6.2s 100-200, so either there is something really bad about your fuel or the car needs a tune-up. No reason to have all those mods if it's underperforming.
 
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Originally Posted by 997 GT3 RS/TT
correct, he is doing service to my car here in poland.
I think again U.S power numbers are very optimistic.

Well, on some cases I'm with you, but some dynos are really conservative, like the Mustang..

And then we (as european) have the bad habit of rating HP's to the cranck, which is a big mistake IMO.

If we look at the real world numbers, their (US tuners) power claims seem very fair to me. Even taking into account pump gas VS race gas.
 
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so you want to tell me guys car with this kit

http://evoms.com/marketplace/ViewProduct.asp?Now=2/19/2011+12:02:14+PM&ProductID={4F354040-B8FF-4B70-9134-40452DC4625D}&OrgID={CA5E16BC-D877-4137-8237-7EB9084DD3D8}&ParentID={A48CF5CC-AACE-4425-93CC-CC302D1701ED}&Curr={A48CF5CC-AACE-4425-93CC-CC302D1701ED}

will do 400m in 10,85sec?
600 is 600 correct?

this car is faster than 997tt with modd vtgs....

btw I'm also shocked with this result, owner is not happy at all.
 

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Well, on 3071's the guess of my tuner is 650 crank on a conservative tune.
So the times and HP figure of Dominik's car (the one in the video) seem about right.
 
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I do 100-200 in 5,5sec at the moment and we are working on the ecu since it pulls timing and let boost out at 3000-4000 rpm
 


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