Ruf RT12R
#61
I stand corrected - thank you for posting this. Did they mention which engine is being mated with the PDK transmission? Because if they are now using the A91, it is a departure from their current RT12S http://www.ruf-automobile.de/en/Rt-12-S.526a2.php
bob
bob
And remember that RUF used PDK in road cars when Porsche had them only in GT1's ( IIRC ) in 1990's.
#62
I know him too! He sent me the package a couple of weeks back...very smart guy!
#63
I stand corrected - thank you for posting this. Did they mention which engine is being mated with the PDK transmission? Because if they are now using the A91, it is a departure from their current RT12S http://www.ruf-automobile.de/en/Rt-12-S.526a2.php
bob
bob
we take for the new Rt 12 S PDK the engine with fuel direct injection.
Best regards
RUF Automobile GmbH
Norbert Grabotin
Thats what he sent
#65
Strange, I have never seen any Rt12 or Rt12 S with PDK only manual and that is the only gearbox I thought was available.
The Rt12S did same 0-300 km/h as GT2RS in a duel test in German Autobil Sportscars, but had a significantly higher top speed, 360 or 365 km/h I beleive.
The Rt12S is much better for everyday driving since the Gt2RS is too hardcore for everyday driving. This is along the lines of what Alois said as well when I talked to him last week in Geneva.
Rt12R is manual, 120 kg ligter, carbon hoods and roof and lighter rollcage. This particular one at Geneva did have Xenon delete etc for lightess. See it here:
<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="853" height="510" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/2c80egS8o8M" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
The Rt12S did same 0-300 km/h as GT2RS in a duel test in German Autobil Sportscars, but had a significantly higher top speed, 360 or 365 km/h I beleive.
The Rt12S is much better for everyday driving since the Gt2RS is too hardcore for everyday driving. This is along the lines of what Alois said as well when I talked to him last week in Geneva.
Rt12R is manual, 120 kg ligter, carbon hoods and roof and lighter rollcage. This particular one at Geneva did have Xenon delete etc for lightess. See it here:
<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="853" height="510" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/2c80egS8o8M" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
#67
Sorry, it wasn't PDK, but EKS:
When we were at Ruf's we drove their second 993 BTR prototype, which has his EKS (Electronische Kupplung System) or in plain English an Electronic Clutch System. Alois Ruf had told me about this system almost two years ago in January 1993 when we met at the Porsche clubs Thunder Tech in Tampa Florida. At the time he was very enthusiastic about the system and I must admit I was not overly impressed with the concept, because I found myself lumping it together with the Sportomatic and Tiptronic transmission of Porsche.
The Ruf cars with the EKS have no clutch pedal and are similar in operation to the transmissions used in the modern Formula 1 cars. The clutch operation is controlled by electronic signals from a computer controlling hydraulic control circuits. The system responds to several different sensors: a gas pedal sensor for throttle position, a torque sensor in the gearshift lever so that it knows when you want to shift, and engine and car speed sensors. From the signals from these different sensors the EKS computer decides when and how to engage or disengage the rather conventional single plate clutch through a hydraulic actuator that moves the clutch throw out bearing. The EKS system is manufactured by the Sachs company and Ruf was their first customer and has helped Sachs to develop the system.
http://www.911handbook.com/articles/f_rufcar.html
When we were at Ruf's we drove their second 993 BTR prototype, which has his EKS (Electronische Kupplung System) or in plain English an Electronic Clutch System. Alois Ruf had told me about this system almost two years ago in January 1993 when we met at the Porsche clubs Thunder Tech in Tampa Florida. At the time he was very enthusiastic about the system and I must admit I was not overly impressed with the concept, because I found myself lumping it together with the Sportomatic and Tiptronic transmission of Porsche.
The Ruf cars with the EKS have no clutch pedal and are similar in operation to the transmissions used in the modern Formula 1 cars. The clutch operation is controlled by electronic signals from a computer controlling hydraulic control circuits. The system responds to several different sensors: a gas pedal sensor for throttle position, a torque sensor in the gearshift lever so that it knows when you want to shift, and engine and car speed sensors. From the signals from these different sensors the EKS computer decides when and how to engage or disengage the rather conventional single plate clutch through a hydraulic actuator that moves the clutch throw out bearing. The EKS system is manufactured by the Sachs company and Ruf was their first customer and has helped Sachs to develop the system.
http://www.911handbook.com/articles/f_rufcar.html
#69
Sales / Marketing
You can email him, he's a nice bloke, i'll private message his email to you
#70
For the record I have never seen any Rt12 with PDK, Alois even says thta it is not possible in this video from last year: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rOZKep8Drc
#71
Its not that it's not possible, its just that they're trying to be stubborn about it by sticking to manuals. But if your running a business, you have to meet customer demands to make money, if that means pdk Rufs, then so be it
#72
Thanks bro. Got your PM. I'll email him and report back my findings.
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