Service light vs non-factory 997.1 turbo exhaust
#1
Service light vs non-factory 997.1 turbo exhaust
Admittingly a touchy subject but +$6K involved. Getting ready for Europipe transplant. My Porsche tech tells me don't do it, says many Porsche drivers with after mkt exhaust come in with engine service lights ablazing and he can do nothing.
How prevalent is this service check lamp issue with 100 or 200 cell cats? Is it more exhaust unit specific?
Went thru 6-speed search, found service lights coming on but no follow-ups how to resolve such dilemmas.
How prevalent is this service check lamp issue with 100 or 200 cell cats? Is it more exhaust unit specific?
Went thru 6-speed search, found service lights coming on but no follow-ups how to resolve such dilemmas.
Last edited by johnww; 04-06-2011 at 01:06 PM.
#2
From an emissions standpoint the purpose of the oxygen sensors in the car are to gauge the effectiveness of the catalytic converter. It takes a reading of the exhaust gasses before, and after the catalytic converter. If it hasn't been "cleaned up enough" it will trigger the emissions code in the DME and give you that nasty check engine light.
You can get around this by having your car flashed, so it will not throw the code regardless. I'm sure someone on here with a Europipe can comment, but I was under the impression that the Europipe cat did not cause CEL issues.
You can get around this by having your car flashed, so it will not throw the code regardless. I'm sure someone on here with a Europipe can comment, but I was under the impression that the Europipe cat did not cause CEL issues.
#4
From an emissions standpoint the purpose of the oxygen sensors in the car are to gauge the effectiveness of the catalytic converter. It takes a reading of the exhaust gasses before, and after the catalytic converter. If it hasn't been "cleaned up enough" it will trigger the emissions code in the DME and give you that nasty check engine light.
You can get around this by having your car flashed, so it will not throw the code regardless. I'm sure someone on here with a Europipe can comment, but I was under the impression that the Europipe cat did not cause CEL issues.
You can get around this by having your car flashed, so it will not throw the code regardless. I'm sure someone on here with a Europipe can comment, but I was under the impression that the Europipe cat did not cause CEL issues.
#5
There may be other brands that do but Europipe systems never produce CEL's. If you get one with an EP its something else.....garranteed . Try it without the tune first. You will see that it makes real power over the stock system. CEL's? Your service tech obviously has no experience with europipe.
#6
Many exhausts are sold with the hjs cats that 'won't' trigger cel's but reality is they will over time as I've experienced. Flash is the only foolproof way. I see EP being thrown out as never doing this but that was said about many exhausts....my cargraphic included...but it surfaced after a while.
#7
Does Australia use OBD2? The tests, and process the DME goes through may well be different as well.
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Admittingly a touchy subject but +$6K involved. Getting ready for Europipe transplant. My Porsche tech tells me don't do it, says many Porsche drivers with after mkt exhaust come in with engine service lights ablazing and he can do nothing.
How prevalent is this service check lamp issue with 100 or 200 cell cats? Is it more exhaust unit specific?
Went thru 6-speed search, found service lights coming on but no follow-ups how to resolve such dilemmas.
How prevalent is this service check lamp issue with 100 or 200 cell cats? Is it more exhaust unit specific?
Went thru 6-speed search, found service lights coming on but no follow-ups how to resolve such dilemmas.
#9
Many exhausts are sold with the hjs cats that 'won't' trigger cel's but reality is they will over time as I've experienced. Flash is the only foolproof way. I see EP being thrown out as never doing this but that was said about many exhausts....my cargraphic included...but it surfaced after a while.
Johnw, my advice to you is to ask Stef and im positive he can guarantee you his systems will never throw a cel. He gauranteed me that when i did my due diligence.
Yes Aus uses OBD2...same as states etc. My P dealer has taken a very good look at my EP1 when my car was in the shop not long after i fitted it. They always throw a piwis on in process of any works they do and my car is always given a clean bill of health in that area. The EP1 drew a lot of attention i was later told. Apparently all the bosses and staff all came to had real good geek at it and all concurred on the amazing build quality and sound. I felt quite good after being told that knowing they were fully satisfied with the mod as being better than factory. I was also told they had seen all sorts of aftermaket systems over time yet nothing quite like the EP.
#11
johnw, i bet once this Prsche tech of yours gets his eyes on your EP he'll be eating his words big time .
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