can't decide which to go
i recently just sold my gen2 cayman S PDK. what's the natural progression upwards from cayman s?
turbo or gt3? i really enjoy the PDK transmission n turbo power but will the turbo handle as well as a GT3?
i wanna use my car as often as possible. Anyone which own both or have own both would care to give me some advise
many thanks

 

In my opinion, the Turbo is more pleasant if you want to use your car as often as possible.

Will it handle as well as the GT3? Probably not, if you're on a race track the majority of the time. I believe the Turbo will handle as well as you need it to, and will be plenty fast for the occasional 'spirited' run.

These are two vastly different directions...

 

coming from a Cayman you might not like the numbness of the AWD / steering feel which takes a bit of $$ thrown at it to get right i.e. wee bit of suspension mods. However you will love the thrust

I guess its much cheaper to make a Turbo handle better than it is a GT3 to accelerate harder, pick your poison.

I was in the same boat around 2007 and I came to the conclusion that the power meant more to me than the raw feel / handling of the GT3. Fast forward 3 years and looking back I dont think either would have been a poor choice......most of the fun factor in the 911 is the handling, not acceleration is what I have found.

 

if you get the turbo then you would want to put on a set of coilovers and set up the suspension properly. However there is no feeling like the gt3 or sound for that matter. GT3 FTW

 

TT PDK: boss of the autobahn/highway, better daily driver, new school
GT3: boss of the track, more fun, old school

 

A turbo pdk will spank a gt3 on the track, sad but true. Bone stock.
Trying to make a tt handle like a gt3 is a losing battle, been there, done that, not necessary. Best to just maximize the stock suspension, ie toe links, LCAs, good alignment, etc.

 

I honestly feel that the average person (not regular track driver) would find the TT more than adequate for handling.

As far as the Cayman S - I loved the turn-in. I found it sharper than the TT (TT felt heavier). But in no way could I not enjoy the TT. It handles wonderfully out of the box, and has that power that a GT3 could not deliver (for me).

 

Not too sure about this.
The 997.2 GT3 beat the 997.2 TT 6:1 on the tracks (it doesn`t say what tranny was used in the TT tho):





P.S. @ fattyk, why don`t u consider a GT3RS? i mean it´s faster, more epic than a GT3 and still cheaper than a TT.



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That was the 6 speed. PDK is a whole nuther story. Esp in average hands, like all of us.

 

guys ... thanks for all the replies & advise
seems like a TT PDK would be better suited for me
i probably will track the car 3x a year & rest of time will be regular road usage and monthly B roads spirited drive
power & torque of TT is definitely much better than GT3. especially the PDK gearbox. i love the PDK so much on cayman S. only reason i am selling it , is that i want more power.
GT3 is definitely nicer in terms of looks. love the rear spoiler and front of the GT3 compared to TT. only reservation is the manual gearbox on the GT3. i'm just a novice driver and have not driven a manual car for over 10 years now. i don't know how to heel & toe. Shifting also not so fast. Guess a PDK box does it all for me. Upshift and downshift bleeping all done for us so precisely
i will try a gt3 before i decide if it suits me. but i also love the power delivery and sound of NA porsche engines. altho less powerful & torquey compared to TT, the high revving engine sound is so so sweet.
just afraid that the handling of TT is not as good as my cayman S. I read that the only porsche that handles better is GT3/GT3RS.
many thanks again to u all!

 

With the exception of your concern over manual vs. pdk, it still sounds like you have a dilemma to me... ( can you get over that GT3 exhaust note, looks you like,etc....) Where is most of your driving going to be, and what will get you excited the most when you take her out? Interesting to hear what you decide...

 

Get a 997.1tt, put on a EP2, get a flash and a dyno tune and get the suspension done (coilovers, springs, sway bars, links), and some cool wheels. I think you'll have the compromise you're looking for, a great street car, and you'll likely save some $$.

 

The Cayman has neutral handling and is very forgiving when in mid-corner and coming off-throttle, the GT3 and Turbo can have a whicked response to mid-corner off-throttle via their snap oversteer (remember 60% of the weight is on or behind the rear axel).

 

Based on your posts, the TT is the right decision. No question it is a better dd and will do just fine at the track totally stock. The reality of the the GT3 it's not a dd, tho it can be done, but not recommended.

 

In a perfect world you'd have both I'd say it's a perfect world for us already if we get one

Unless you're track fiend PDK/turbo is the ultimate street car. That's what it's made to excel at.

The adjustable shocks and electronic motor mounts have made the GT cars more streetable and the street cars more trackable. Either car is built like an anvil. IMO it comes down to weight and the ride quality you're willing to live with every day. It's a TOUGH decision. Enjoy making it! That's half the fun.