Latest Turbo S vs GTR track review. Let the yodeling begin..
#166
06-13-2011, 07:28 AM
If you want an out-the-box track car: GT3 or Lotus.
If you want very fast and moddable street cars: GT-R or Turbo S
I like GT-R because I see one maybe once every 2 months. It's an amazing platform to mod with over 1000whp options. Turbo S can only get up to 600whp or less as of now. If you want to go higher, you need to spend a ton of money and time on upgrading the transmission and possibly the motor.
I've also loved the GT-R since the R32 was first introduced. It was a legend for those in the street racing/import scene. Obviously it appeals to a younger generation, although that isn't the only strong point of the GT-R but it is definitely something to take note (it's also a reason why every teen and 20-something will gawk and even beg you to let them take pics of it).
The 911 Turbo is a slow evolution of a race bred car tamed for the streets with livable amenities like AWD. It's got a high price tag but because it's still a 911 most people mistaken it for your average Carrera.
They are both great cars and I think it's foolishness to bicker over which one is better or not. They are also priced differently. If you value the extra luxurious leather and the tight construction as well as the smooth transmission of the Turbo S then it is worth the extra $70k+-. Just like if you value the looks and visceral feel of the Ferrari you can add an extra $70k to the price of the Turbo S and buy a 458 Italia.
If you want very fast and moddable street cars: GT-R or Turbo S
I like GT-R because I see one maybe once every 2 months. It's an amazing platform to mod with over 1000whp options. Turbo S can only get up to 600whp or less as of now. If you want to go higher, you need to spend a ton of money and time on upgrading the transmission and possibly the motor.
I've also loved the GT-R since the R32 was first introduced. It was a legend for those in the street racing/import scene. Obviously it appeals to a younger generation, although that isn't the only strong point of the GT-R but it is definitely something to take note (it's also a reason why every teen and 20-something will gawk and even beg you to let them take pics of it).
The 911 Turbo is a slow evolution of a race bred car tamed for the streets with livable amenities like AWD. It's got a high price tag but because it's still a 911 most people mistaken it for your average Carrera.
They are both great cars and I think it's foolishness to bicker over which one is better or not. They are also priced differently. If you value the extra luxurious leather and the tight construction as well as the smooth transmission of the Turbo S then it is worth the extra $70k+-. Just like if you value the looks and visceral feel of the Ferrari you can add an extra $70k to the price of the Turbo S and buy a 458 Italia.
#167
06-13-2011, 08:49 AM
A big difference between Porsche and GT-R communities is that the GT-R is but one model of entire brand, and you could have any model Porsche to join a Porsche club. Add that to the fact that Porsches have been sold in the US for decades (all models), and there are only 4,000+ GT-R's in the states.
Basically, I'd equate that to a Porsche Turbo club (you must have a Turbo to sign up). No such thing exists. So people who have Boxters are treated the same as a GT2RS or Carrera GT owner.
If Toyota had something like that a member could show up in a Corolla or an LFA.
Basically, I'd equate that to a Porsche Turbo club (you must have a Turbo to sign up). No such thing exists. So people who have Boxters are treated the same as a GT2RS or Carrera GT owner.
If Toyota had something like that a member could show up in a Corolla or an LFA.
Nissan did NOTHING. NOTHING. Could have set up a trip for us at Nurburgring which BMW did to PREVIEW the new M3. Could have invited us for mixers at our local auto shows to show us the new cars. Could have set up their own GT-R owners club to help build community. But nada. They missed a big no brainer here. I hear this from many current and past GT-R owners including myself so I know I'm not alone.
#168
06-13-2011, 10:37 AM
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Jasper,
Nissan did NOTHING. NOTHING. Could have set up a trip for us at Nurburgring which BMW did to PREVIEW the new M3. Could have invited us for mixers at our local auto shows to show us the new cars. Could have set up their own GT-R owners club to help build community. But nada. They missed a big no brainer here. I hear this from many current and past GT-R owners including myself so I know I'm not alone.
Nissan did NOTHING. NOTHING. Could have set up a trip for us at Nurburgring which BMW did to PREVIEW the new M3. Could have invited us for mixers at our local auto shows to show us the new cars. Could have set up their own GT-R owners club to help build community. But nada. They missed a big no brainer here. I hear this from many current and past GT-R owners including myself so I know I'm not alone.
Still loved the car though.
Bish
#169
06-13-2011, 11:37 AM
One big negative to the GTR experience is the Nissan Dealership that you have to go through to buy a the car. Make me appreciate Porsche/Ferrari/Lexus dealerships.
#170
06-13-2011, 12:09 PM
It was actually one of the better parts of my ownership... At the Porsche dealer, I was just another 911 owner. At the Nissan dealer, I get treated like royalty.
#171
06-13-2011, 12:10 PM
Jasper,
Nissan did NOTHING. NOTHING. Could have set up a trip for us at Nurburgring which BMW did to PREVIEW the new M3. Could have invited us for mixers at our local auto shows to show us the new cars. Could have set up their own GT-R owners club to help build community. But nada. They missed a big no brainer here. I hear this from many current and past GT-R owners including myself so I know I'm not alone.
Nissan did NOTHING. NOTHING. Could have set up a trip for us at Nurburgring which BMW did to PREVIEW the new M3. Could have invited us for mixers at our local auto shows to show us the new cars. Could have set up their own GT-R owners club to help build community. But nada. They missed a big no brainer here. I hear this from many current and past GT-R owners including myself so I know I'm not alone.
There has been a GTROC for quite a few years now, though.
#172
06-13-2011, 12:16 PM
If you want an out-the-box track car: GT3 or Lotus.
If you want very fast and moddable street cars: GT-R or Turbo S
I like GT-R because I see one maybe once every 2 months. It's an amazing platform to mod with over 1000whp options. Turbo S can only get up to 600whp or less as of now. If you want to go higher, you need to spend a ton of money and time on upgrading the transmission and possibly the motor.
I've also loved the GT-R since the R32 was first introduced. It was a legend for those in the street racing/import scene. Obviously it appeals to a younger generation, although that isn't the only strong point of the GT-R but it is definitely something to take note (it's also a reason why every teen and 20-something will gawk and even beg you to let them take pics of it).
The 911 Turbo is a slow evolution of a race bred car tamed for the streets with livable amenities like AWD. It's got a high price tag but because it's still a 911 most people mistaken it for your average Carrera.
They are both great cars and I think it's foolishness to bicker over which one is better or not. They are also priced differently. If you value the extra luxurious leather and the tight construction as well as the smooth transmission of the Turbo S then it is worth the extra $70k+-. Just like if you value the looks and visceral feel of the Ferrari you can add an extra $70k to the price of the Turbo S and buy a 458 Italia.
If you want very fast and moddable street cars: GT-R or Turbo S
I like GT-R because I see one maybe once every 2 months. It's an amazing platform to mod with over 1000whp options. Turbo S can only get up to 600whp or less as of now. If you want to go higher, you need to spend a ton of money and time on upgrading the transmission and possibly the motor.
I've also loved the GT-R since the R32 was first introduced. It was a legend for those in the street racing/import scene. Obviously it appeals to a younger generation, although that isn't the only strong point of the GT-R but it is definitely something to take note (it's also a reason why every teen and 20-something will gawk and even beg you to let them take pics of it).
The 911 Turbo is a slow evolution of a race bred car tamed for the streets with livable amenities like AWD. It's got a high price tag but because it's still a 911 most people mistaken it for your average Carrera.
They are both great cars and I think it's foolishness to bicker over which one is better or not. They are also priced differently. If you value the extra luxurious leather and the tight construction as well as the smooth transmission of the Turbo S then it is worth the extra $70k+-. Just like if you value the looks and visceral feel of the Ferrari you can add an extra $70k to the price of the Turbo S and buy a 458 Italia.
I agree with everything else.
#174
06-13-2011, 07:38 PM
The first time I took my 997TT in for service at the dealership - they gave me a Cooper Mini as a "loaner." I definitely felt special. 
(...which is why I do 99% of my own service now.)
(...which is why I do 99% of my own service now.)
#175
06-13-2011, 07:48 PM
Bob
That a good one, better then the Versa I was offered and I said no thanks drop me off at home.
That a good one, better then the Versa I was offered and I said no thanks drop me off at home.
#176
06-13-2011, 08:32 PM
If you go to Hyundai you get better service than Nissan. I don't think you can get worse than that, not to say that the dealership close to me, the dealership is falling apart.
The 997 turbo or the GTR still good street cars, that's all they are. Sorry but I can't see the point of having a 1000 hp cars. That's probably for people that have confidence problems, and need to prove something. Doesn't make you a better driver, doesn't prove anything, just who has more money to spend. In that case, if you like that go buy or build a drag car. You can't do sh@t on the streets anymore, and to try to drive a good car to it's full potential, you won't be able to do on the streets, being a straight line car, or a proper build car.
The 997 turbo or the GTR still good street cars, that's all they are. Sorry but I can't see the point of having a 1000 hp cars. That's probably for people that have confidence problems, and need to prove something. Doesn't make you a better driver, doesn't prove anything, just who has more money to spend. In that case, if you like that go buy or build a drag car. You can't do sh@t on the streets anymore, and to try to drive a good car to it's full potential, you won't be able to do on the streets, being a straight line car, or a proper build car.
#177
06-13-2011, 09:09 PM
You spend $150K on a sports car at a dealership, and a econobox is what is offered as a loaner. That just doesn't sound right.
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#178
06-13-2011, 11:51 PM
If it bothers you, report it to NNA. If it doesn't bother you, don't worry about it.
#179
06-14-2011, 01:05 AM
If you go to Hyundai you get better service than Nissan. I don't think you can get worse than that, not to say that the dealership close to me, the dealership is falling apart.
The 997 turbo or the GTR still good street cars, that's all they are. Sorry but I can't see the point of having a 1000 hp cars. That's probably for people that have confidence problems, and need to prove something. Doesn't make you a better driver, doesn't prove anything, just who has more money to spend. In that case, if you like that go buy or build a drag car. You can't do sh@t on the streets anymore, and to try to drive a good car to it's full potential, you won't be able to do on the streets, being a straight line car, or a proper build car.
The 997 turbo or the GTR still good street cars, that's all they are. Sorry but I can't see the point of having a 1000 hp cars. That's probably for people that have confidence problems, and need to prove something. Doesn't make you a better driver, doesn't prove anything, just who has more money to spend. In that case, if you like that go buy or build a drag car. You can't do sh@t on the streets anymore, and to try to drive a good car to it's full potential, you won't be able to do on the streets, being a straight line car, or a proper build car.
and im sure she wont approve of another crazy porsche...
#180
06-14-2011, 04:33 AM
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this is another reason why Audi is so damn underrated it disgusts me.
Audi only deals with Audi period... You drive an Audi in for service you get
and Audi loaner.
I wish more people knew what fine quality and detail to service goes into these cars.
Audi only deals with Audi period... You drive an Audi in for service you get
and Audi loaner.
I wish more people knew what fine quality and detail to service goes into these cars.